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Re: Seeking True Democracy
Posted by: koikaze (IP Logged)
Date: September 22, 2007 06:30AM

Good Morning, Bruce


We have at least four people who agree with some version of the idea that parties are anti-democratic (you, PVR, Roy Daine and myself). That leads me to ask if something would be possible, even though I haven't a clue about how it can be done.


Is there a way to develop a set of precepts and make them readily available for modification and reference?


THE RATIONALE
Although the four of us (and, possibly, many more) agree that parties are anti-democratic, our agreement gets lost in the tons of verbiage that surround the expression of our view and the responses to it. Others, who come later to the discussion, must dig through the verbiage to get the sense of each poster's position.


Each of us expressed our views in different ways even though (I believe) we all meant the same thing. If we had the means to present (what we believe to be) a sound precept and others could edit our presentation to refine it by making it crisper or more complete, we would, in time, build a set of important ideas. The person who edits an entry should descibe the reason for making the change, and the set of reasons should be available to anyone interested in accepting or challenging the precept.


Such a mechanism might become too confrontational. Still, it would be nice if we could refine any conclusions we reach. Can someone suggest a less ponderous method?


Re: "Clean Elections"
I do not (as yet) support public funding for campaigns. As far as I can see, it simply reduces the costs borne by the parties and gives them more money to manipulate the public and our government.


The attempt to ban of soft money sounds good, too, but the money is simply moved from party coffers to Political Action Committees where it is used to the same effect. We need to recognize that, as long as we allow campaign-based politics, the corruptible power of money will continue to dominate politics. Changing the source won't change the result, because the concept of campaigning is fundamentally flawed, and ...


We can not legislate morality!


Contradictory as it may sound, I support Common Cause in its effort to clean up the political infrastructure in the United States. They are doing something NOW, while I merely ponder the problems and possible solutions.


Fred


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Subject Views Written By Posted
  Seeking True Democracy 1729 koikaze 09/06/2007 05:18AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 456 koikaze 09/25/2007 10:32AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 595 PVR 09/06/2007 10:48PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 1312 koikaze 09/09/2007 06:33AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 551 MiKolar 09/18/2007 08:24PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 465 koikaze 09/23/2007 08:25AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 446 RoyDaine 09/23/2007 10:02AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 447 koikaze 09/23/2007 10:12AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 427 RoyDaine 09/23/2007 11:24AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 426 MiKolar 09/24/2007 08:58PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 450 BrEggum 09/24/2007 09:07PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 458 RoyDaine 09/24/2007 11:31PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 507 koikaze 09/21/2007 06:19AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 511 koikaze 09/20/2007 04:45AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 566 RoyDaine 09/20/2007 09:18AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 532 koikaze 09/21/2007 06:22AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 521 RoyDaine 09/21/2007 07:45AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 518 koikaze 09/22/2007 06:25AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 534 BrEggum 09/21/2007 08:42AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 507 koikaze 09/22/2007 06:30AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 526 RoyDaine 09/22/2007 08:09AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 548 BrEggum 09/22/2007 09:04AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 526 WebMaster 09/22/2007 06:37PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 515 BrEggum 09/22/2007 07:09PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 470 RoyDaine 09/22/2007 11:14PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 463 BrEggum 09/22/2007 11:33PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 463 RoyDaine 09/23/2007 12:00AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 461 BrEggum 09/22/2007 10:32PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 452 MiKolar 09/24/2007 08:26PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 448 BrEggum 09/24/2007 08:34PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 501 WebMaster 09/29/2007 01:37PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 489 WebMaster 09/22/2007 10:06PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 512 RoyDaine 09/22/2007 09:39AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 499 RoyDaine 09/22/2007 08:31AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 546 BrEggum 09/22/2007 07:40AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 529 RoyDaine 09/21/2007 10:55AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 545 RoyDaine 09/21/2007 07:57AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 542 PVR 09/11/2007 04:52AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 525 koikaze 09/11/2007 01:34PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 547 PVR 09/18/2007 05:50AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 529 koikaze 09/20/2007 04:41AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 496 PVR 09/21/2007 04:52AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 564 koikaze 09/21/2007 12:23PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 533 PVR 09/21/2007 09:19PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 462 koikaze 09/23/2007 07:48AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 523 koikaze 09/19/2007 11:39AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 586 koikaze 09/07/2007 02:01PM


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