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02122: Re: [WDDM] Re :[WDDM] What is the AIM of WDDM?

From: Bruce Eggum <bruce.eggum(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 13:56:16 -0500
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Re :[WDDM] What is the AIM of WDDM?


Dear VP and List:

[VP] Bruce,
  I wonder how you equated True Democracy with - "No president, No prime minister etc. Just the people making decisions...". I think you have the 'anarchist' conception of democracy in mind.

[B] No VP not anarchism.  Democracy is the People making decisions, not the government.

The people of a community, territory meet “assemble” in a meeting or virtually on line, discuss issues, find resolutions and vote on implementing them. [referendum] They do this with no "No president, No prime minister etc. influencing them. The people than tell the President, Prime Minister etc. what to do.

[VP] We have discussed a lot about True Democracy on the Forum. I am giving a link that explains how the concept of True Democracy is in tune with the existing kind of representative democracy. It also explains how the tools of I&R can be integrated into the process of governance: http://www.world-wide-democracy.net/forum/read.php?23,641,641#msg-641


[B] You say:
If the True Democracy candidate wins the election then the web platform can continue to help him(/her) interact with the people of the constituency who elected him.


The difficulty here is the people are now dependent on “winning the election”. Instead of Directly controlling their government and Nation. As a party they would be competing with the elite. [again] You also have I&BR listed as part of your platform. I suggest emphasizing this.


I am not against your platform. Indeed it is amazing you have so many people willing to take part in it. I only want to emphasize that Direct Democracy requires the people have control of the government. A party only controls when it is the majority.

[VP] First we should get there into the corridors of government. This can be done from the grass roots and this movement can do it provided it is not preoccupied with I&R only.

Vijayaraghavan Padmanabhan


Not preoccupied with I&R, we are preoccupied with Democracy.

Regards, Bruce

Bruce Eggum
Gresham Wisconsin, USA

  vote


On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:26 AM, <Vijayaraghavan Padmanabhan> wrote:
Bruce,
I wonder how you equated True Democracy with - "No president, No prime minister etc. Just the people making decisions...". I think you have the 'anarchist' conception of democracy in mind.

We have discussed a lot about True Democracy on the Forum. I am giving a link that explains how the concept of True Democracy is in tune with the existing kind of representative democracy. It also explains how the tools of I&R can be integrated into the process of governance: http://www.world-wide-democracy.net/forum/read.php?23,641,641#msg-641

First we should get there into the corridors of government. This can be done from the grass roots and this movement can do it provided it is not preoccupied with I&R only.

Vijayaraghavan Padmanabhan


On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:00:46 -0500 wddm@world-wide-democracy.net wrote


Direct Democracy

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difficult to go in two directions at once. I bring these questions up so we may
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