From: | "Jim Powell" <autoinfo(at)acenet.co.za> |
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Date: | Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:52:14 +0200 |
Subject: | RE: [WDDM] Getting the whole picture about DD |
The cheepest most efficient form of government is a
dictatorship as long as the dictator is
benevolent....some of the best governments in the
world are dictatorships...
--- Antonio Rossin <rossin(at)tin.it> wrote:
Jim Powell ha scritto:http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/rossin08.htm
Hi Antonio,dictatorship.
I do not agree that this will lead to
We may disagree with the methods that are putforward but this
concentrates on the differences.Hi Jim,
Mainstream communication is required.
These words of yours sound strange to a fellow -
like me -
who lived in a country ( Italy) under fascistic
dictatorship.
Maybe in your country you've got no such background.
The best way is to introduce "the way things work"into the school
curriculum.made.
This would examine the way in which decisions are
The fertile mind of the child would then ask why?I do not agree totally with this .
The best way is to introduce "the way things work"
into the family
curriculum, at the zero-to-three age, when parents
are still the only
teachers and the child is learning communicated
things not only, but
also how communication works within interpersonal
(within social,
later) relationships. There the problem is, how to
save children from
their "fertile minds" getting sterilized by family
dictatorship, imho.
About this topic, if you were interested in, I have
some stuff at:
(and at .../rossin09.htm, if you were interested inhttp://findgeorges.com/ROOT/WRITINGS/POLITICS/shadow_eng.html
how differences
work inside mainstream communication, to wit,
Dialectics.)
Simple logic would then have them realize that thesystem is not
representative of the will of the people.See my "idea" about this point in a previous post of
Regards
Jim Powell
mine.
There I question: how does the real will of the
people work?
" - for good or bad purposes - ? "
Which becomes, now: "with a fertile or with a
sterilized mind?"
Regards
ant
*From:* Antonio Rossinabout DD
*Sent:* 13 Mar 2008 07:34 AM
*To:* wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
*Cc:* epistemology(at)yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [WDDM] Getting the whole picture
Georges,of
The problem of (the lack of) Democracy is not that
communicating valuable stuff -- such as yoursbelow --
to people.--
Instead, it is about how to communicate any stuff
encompassing yours -- to people, so to enable themcommunicating.
to deal with.
In other words, that's not a problem of
That's a problem of meta-communicating.as you
If you were unable to understand the difference,
seem as, you are a damage to Democracy, becauseyou
are leading towards (scientific) dictatorship.<vijayaraghavan.p(at)rediffmail.com> wrote:
Regards,
antonio
Georges Metanomski ha scritto:
--- Vijayaraghavan Padmanabhan
<vijayaraghavan.p(at)rediffmail.com>
but it
I&R is focussed on
the process that would enable True Democracy
does not tell us how to get there.to
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G:
For once a reasonable statement. It's not for us
discusse, let alone to dictate which forms shouldtake
the DD governance. Once established, it will befor
thehow
Forum to determine them. All we can do is to see
tocalled
get there. Years ago I proposed a way that I
"Shadow Parliament". I cannot be judge and party,so
it should be discussed by other people.
It's available in
Particracy.
I quote here it's conclusion:
QUOTE
Three issues seem essential for starting to move
towards the DD:
1.Getting a Shadow Parliament within the
experience
2.Establish a logistic 3 Functions support.
3.Propound Sincerity, which appears to be the
critical condition of DD. A very limited
seems to point to "self applicable attitude".mental
An example:
A small forum discussed pollution and found out
rightly
or wrongly that the worst pollution source is the
factory breeding of animals. Besides pollution it
involves unacceptable suffering of animals and
corruption of attendants who become potentialsadistic
Auschwitz guards. The group condemned eating meat.Not
as a theoretical principle, but as a self applyingconsisted
decision and all members stopped eating meat.
Another very limited and positive experience
the
in stages in Kibbutzim, confronting fellows with
sincerity of the unique ever realized genuine DD.
UNQUOTE
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