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01506: Re: [WDDM] latest vote on DD

From: "Bruce Eggum" <bruceeggum(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:13:23 -0500
Subject: Re: [WDDM] latest vote on DD

Dear Mirek, you state "the other group" (which other group?)  prefers the wider definition (DD requires complete
overhaul of the society; democracy and equality of opportunities in all areas of social life, etc.)

This "wider definition" you speak of does not specify what or how "this other group" intends to accomplish this. Please elaborate.

I&BR allows the people to completely overhaul all of government, they could indeed dissolve it all and replace it all with I&BR

The first ingredient necessary is the power to do a thing. I&BR gives the people that power. You can have websites, meetings, shadow parliaments, demonstrations, and revolts. But until the people demand the power to Initiate and use Binding Referendum to implement their Initiatives they have nothing.

So please elaborate and describe in depth what this other way is Mirek.
Thanks, Bruce

On 9/29/07, <WDDM webmaster> wrote:
Bruce,
This "vote" is meant to stimulate and finish up the discussion on the
first item of the proposed Glossary that you have yourself started.
There seem that there are two groups among out members, one is happy
with the narrower definition of DD (e.g. you at
http://www.world-wide-democracy.net/forum/read.php?23,444,531#msg-531),
the other group prefers the wider definition (DD requires complete
overhaul of the society; democracy and equality of opportunities in all
areas of social life, etc.)

Members can add alternative or more precise (in their view) definitions
of DD.  In this way we can end up with the rankings of various
definition, and we may then concentrate on the most preferred one.

This is not a final vote, not a formal proposal or initiative, this is
an attempt to find what the common position of this groups could be.
This could then lead to a more formal proposal.

Mirek

Bruce Eggum wrote:
> I am puzzled on what we are voting for or trying to determine in this
> election.
> It seems more information was needed.
> The question provided is:
> DD is Initiative and Binding Referendum and Recalls   2       *198*   * 99.00*
> DD is a socio-political structure concentrating the Legislation
> directly and exclusively in the hands of people
>
>
> Initiative and Binding Referendum and Recall is one of numerous
> processes which may be utilized by the people to govern directly.
> If the people do not have Binding Referendum for instance, they would
> not have the power to control their government.
> Without I&BR&R the people have no direct or exclusive control.
> So, what are we voting for?
>
> DD includes Initiative and Binding Referendum which is necessary to
> provide Legislation directly and exclusively in the hands of the people.
>
> The above can not be separated or both would fail.
> Bruce
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