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01394: On Conscience-based political system

From: "Vijayaraghavan Padmanabhan" <vijayaraghavan.p(at)rediffmail.com>
Date: 2 Aug 2007 14:32:57 -0000
Subject: On Conscience-based political system



Antonio,
You have summed up my proposal well:

>It seems to me, your model meets two main prerequisites
>of democracy:
>
>1.  Policies must be territory-linked, thus be originated
>    bottom-up locally;
>
>2.  People must awarely question their officials and-or
>      representatives, and wield the control power over them.
>
>Obviously, the people shall have a devoted place where they
>can express themselves.  WDDM could provide this place.

However I am puzzled about the fee for membership matter.


Bruce,
I am sure that the proposed model fits into your view of Democracy as explained in your post on World Democracy elsewhere:

"We have many common grounds.We have needs, goals; food, shelter, health, peace and even trade. We no longer want to live in a world run by kings, lords, and others of the elite. To do so, in each of our communities and networked with others 'round the world we can plan and implement ways to meet these goals. The reality is if we do not, the elite will conquer all [see george bush]. The menace of weapons is a breathe away from global disaster. The menace of corporations [elite] controlling all is polluting our air, water, land. These elements are essential to life. We people of the Earth do care, we can unite to accomplish this task of sustainability for all. What we need is to quit being obedient to elites and begin taking responsibility for ourselves, family and community. Together we can accomplish much".

I think you have not yet examined my proposal on conscience-based political system and I hope that when you do, you have an open heart and mind.


Mark,
You have replied on the proposal forum:
"One might say that current representative government is the most democractic form of government possible with 18th century technology.  We in WDDM are looking to bring about the best democracy possible with 3rd millenium technology".

I think that you have not yet examined my proposal on Conscience-based political system. If you do then you may find that it fits into your vision of being the best democracy possible with the 3rd millenium technology. I am sure that you will agree that speaking about conscience does not take us back to earlier centuries.

PVR





On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 Antonio Rossin wrote :
>Dear PVR,
>
Accordingly, I will be glad to share-in with my membership fee.
>
>Thanks,
>
>antonio
>
>
>Vijayaraghavan Padmanabhan ha scritto:
>>
>>Dear Antonio and all,
>>I have indicated in the course of several of my posts how
>>a conscience-based political system can be ushered in.
>>In fact WDDM has helped in improvising the original plan
>>I have mentioned in my blog:
>>http://musingsonpartylessdemocracy.blogspot.com .
>>But let me update and summarize here what I have in mind:
>>
>>1) The model of Roy Baine's www.myverdict.net is a good
>>starting point. He has painstakingly collected names of about
>>140 countries, the primary divisions (states) of each of these
>>countries and the secondary divisions of each of these primary
>>divisions. Any person on earth belonging to one of these
>>localities can thus express himself regarding matters concerning
>>his/her area. I would suggest that we prepare a similar list but
>>the names should be that of the constituencies at the state,
>>district and sub-district levels so that the views expressed by
>>voters of a particular constituency can consolidate and pave
>>the way for action at the local level, either directly or through
>>pressure exerted on the elected representative of that constituency
>>(in terms of the prospects of him getting reelected or recalled if
>>such a law is eventually passed). An example of exerting pressure
>>of similar nature being already tried is given in the following link: http://www.alliance21.org/2003/article.php3?id_article=2455
>>
>>Thus WDDM can be a platform for people to make their voice
>>heard.  The members who register themselves at WDDM can
>>express on what they they would like to see happening with
>>respect to their locality/state/nation on issues that concern them.
>>Similarly they can express dissatisfaction on issues that affect them.
>>Thus the individual's conscience is made the centre of all activity
>>and not the views of a small minority belonging to the political
>>or other elite classes.
>>
>>2) In order to add weightage to the views of the people it should
>>be made clear that if the members of a particular area feel that the
>>elected representatives are failing in their task, then the voters
>>would join together in the next ensuing election to campaign for
>>the candidate (either an independent or belonging to a political
>>party that believes in conscience-based governance) whom they
>>believe would seriously take note of the people's views expressed
>>on the WDDM (and other such platforms).
>>
>>3) Eventually the above steps can lead to a situation where
>>'conscience-based governance' through 'partyless mechanism
>>within the elected house' can be made into a law if the people
>>so desire. The political parties would still exist but would be
>>confined to promoting their particular ideology outside the
>>elected house, having no role in actual governance.
>>
>>The above step wise approach would allow freedom of
>>thought to the people and would allow increasing degree
>>of activism towards truer democracy depending on the
>>need of the locality and the way the political parties respond
>>to the challenge. Political parties and independent politicians
>>would find that getting themselves registered at the WDDM
>>and adopting the principle of 'conscience-based governance'
>>would be advantageous to them. NGOs fighting for various
>>social causes would find that supporting the WDDM by
>>registering themselves in it would be of great help in
>>promoting their respective causes.
>>
>>The global approach of WDDM would be an advantage
>>since the possible down-side of adopting 'conscience-based
>>governance' to individual national economies in terms of
>>losing competitiveness would be balanced by similar changes
>>occurring everywhere. The global approach naturally would
>>add to the appeal and credibility of 'conscience-based
>>governance' to the common man.
>>
>>There is vast scope of further refinement of the above
>>proposal. I&R Tools like Enitiative can be integrated to
>>facilitate deliberation and decision making by the people.
>>
>>I will post this under the proposal forum for what it is worth.
>>
>>PVR
>>
>>
>>




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