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Dear WDDM members,
we found finally a solution in the DD oriented structure
models for the Greek DD Movement, by having in all our
decisional committees a majority of permanent and
really active members and a minority of all the
other members (including the rest of the active), selected by sortition
and giving them all a chance to decision-making by rotation, until
the whole list of members finishes (for instance in a proposed 11 members
Coordination Committee of WDDM, we can appoint 6 or 7 members, as
permanent for a period of one or two years and 5 or 4
members rotating among all the rest of members every six
months in the post of this main organ of WDDM - similarly with the
Security Council of United Nations, that has the ex super powers of the world as
permanent members and all the other countries, as Greece in this period , as
members of this decisional mean of the entire world).
This is my FINAL PROPOSAL for
WDDM structure and decision making procedures, even with simple e-mail systems,
coming out of my experience as a democrat lawyer and as almost
the only active Founding member of WDDM and an elected ex Vice
Spokesperson of WDDM, in order to avoid our childhood illnesses in the
future!
Let's try it!!
George L. Kokkas
NGO "Forum for Citizens' Democracy"
----- Aρχικό μήνυμα -----
Προς: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Αποστολή: Δευτέρα, 29 Ιανουαρίου 2007
3:05 πμ
Θέμα: Re: [WDDM] Resignation
Dear Bernard,
I thank you for your contributions of New
Political Systems, Phoenix, and your work at the local level.
However,
for some reason we had a communication problem. You note: "d) "we need an
organisation" - even a one-man business operates in different modes, an
electrician
would not (if he wanted to live) connect to the mains whilst
thinking about his tax returns.
Ditto with companies, government and
organisations, yet 6 years later, wddm is still trying to
function on a
single plane email system, and complains about confusion."
Yes, a
single plain email system! That is why we were asking for a Charter, to
establish a process to discuss and process information and come to a group
decision on matters for WDDM.
Being "democratic" we do not want to make
individual decisions and COMMAND the rest to follow, that is DICTATORSHIP.
Thus we want a Charter written so every member is equal in their input and has
equal "power' of a vote in all matters of WDDM.
We have an un-used
website with (1) websites for individuals, WIKI, (2) a huge discussion board
FORUM, and other tools for WDDM. Structuring would explain and link these
things so people could learn how to use the tools and contribute to the whole
of WDDM.
This "structuring" you have fought tooth and nail so it is no
surprise WDDM has not gone past the "email" stage.
My post stating the
discussion topic was Structure, was to the list not Jiri. Jiri's comment is
true we need to have structured discussions about the many different DD
programs available.
It is difficult to keep discussions to a topic on
email, that is why FORUM is preferred;
This confusion would not have
happened if this "discussion" were on Forum, which we tried to do, however
people apparently do not choose to log in.
So keep up the good work
Bernard, and check back once in awhile because if we get hopping with Forum
and actually become an organized Organization we could do good
things.
All the Best, Bruce
On 1/28/07, Bernard
Clayson
wrote:
Please
accept my resignation from wddm.
Reasons:
a) I am too busy
locally to watch paint dry on this list, and it is a non-contributary
distraction
from my primary objective - to find out how democracy works
with people.
12 years ago I started constructing New Political System,
it had numerous levels and a defined
structure.
Ditto with Lee's model
and others.
About 5 years ago I constructed Phoenix, a multi-level
structured email system that was capable of
keeping everyone informed
without involving those with other interests on the other lists.
The most
vocal objection (same name as a USA Vietnam war program) came from someone
who realises (at
last) that -
"I think a good idea to recognize that
we each have different talents and"
b) "to join together like people
into nine groups to bring out their specialty is a good idea.
Nine? at
the current rate of progress, in 20 years time it will sink in that nine is
totally
inadequate for the job in hand, and it will be totally academic
to most of us anyway.
c) It would not be too wild a guess that these
'nine' groups would be on the web i.e. we would have
to go looking to
follow what is happening.
I live in the UK (which is rapidly heading to
dictatorship), yet I get regular summaries with links
to download the
full detail .... if it interests me.
I can't be the only one with a slow
connection, and if a dictatorial government can keep me
informed, why
can't wddm.
d) "we need an organisation" - even a one-man business
operates in different modes, an electrician
would not (if he wanted to
live) connect to the mains whilst thinking about his tax returns.
Ditto
with companies, government and organisations, yet 6 years later, wddm is
still trying to
function on a single plane email system, and complains
about confusion.
e) A founding member of wddm is rebuked (for making
a suggestion) with -
"The topic is WDDM Charter, not various kinds of DD
or government. If you want to advocate for a
specific DD model or type,
you can do so on WDDM Website using Forum and WIKI"
The same dictatorial
approach that caused me to resign the first wddm.
f) "we need a
voting system" - in 25 years time, assuming a voting system is introduced,
you will
have voted yourselves in to a corner with the advocates saying
"well we voted on that".
Which is the situation that gave cause to my
second public-run referendum.
g) In 30 years time, it may
occur to some that there are more important aspects than voting.
If
someone could please show me the exit, I would appreciate it.
I will be
interested in returning, or joining a progressive group, if there is any
sign of
willingness to TRY different approaches.
Meanwhile
........ you should make good progress with me out of the way.
Adios
amigos
Regards
Bernard
--
Bruce Eggum
Gresham Wisconsin, USA
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Surge
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