Re: [WDDM] A proposal put for vote to all the WDDM members

[lpc1998 <lpc1998(at)lpc1998.com>]

Hi Georges and Bernard,

I am one of the five "active" members who have participated in trying to establish a functioning WDDM and I salute both of you for being quick in defending DD or true democracy.

I join both of you in voting against the Proposal. My reasons are here: http://www.world-wide-democracy.net/forum/read.php?9,257,301#msg-301

We do have an interesting, majority consensual proposal. It is here: http://www.world-wide-democracy.net/forum/read.php?9,257,257#msg-257 It is called Membership Rules Summary No. 2. It is to address the problems of "inactive" members and of an open membership for new members. I believe that it would have the support of both of you, if you give it careful consideration.

Unfortunately, in presenting Membership Rules Summary No. 2 to the members for voting, there were some last minute changes to it that makes the Proposal what it is including the regrettable use of the word "Administrators". It appears the last minute changes that contradict the majority consensus were made to accommodate a dissenting view.

We obviously need the help of both of you and as many other WDDM members as possible to establish a functioning WDDM, especially in framing the Membership and Decision-making Rules.

So please join the "active" group now by replying to this email and give us whatever help you all can render.

Best Regards

Eric Lim

Georges Metanomski <zgmet(at)wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> > To make it easy for all the WDDM members, the vote on this proposal is by
> > e-mail, send you votes in to wddm@world-wide-democracy.net (or simply reply to
> > this e-mail).
> > Thank you,
> > Mirek
> >
> > THE PROPOSAL that is the subject of this vote (also posted at: ):
>
> ===========================================================
> I vote against for reasons interlined within the
> proposal's body
> Georges
> ===========================================================
>
> > Beginning of the proposal ----------------------------------------------------
> >
> > WDDM Membership Structure and Rules
> > ===================================
> >
> > SUMMARY:
> >
> > Our past experience shows that there are roughly two groups who want to be
> > associated with WDDM.
> >
> > 1. There is a larger group of people
>  who support WDDM goals (to various extent)
> > but are currently not able to participate more actively. These persons will be
> > called the WDDM Associate Members. They constitute a loose Association without
> > any further internal structure. WDDM Associate Membership is granted without
> > approval to all interested persons who complete the registration form at
> > http://www.world-wide-democracy.net/forum/register.php. However, their
> > membership can be terminated, if their behaviour is in complete contradiction
> > to the WDDM mission.
> >
> > 2. The second, smaller group consists of people who are able and willing to be
> > active in the WDDM operations. They will be called the Administrators (or
> > Operating Members, Active Members, or Ordinary Members - the exact name chosen
> > may be the subject of further discussion). They can create whatever structure
> > (officers, Board) they deem necessary for the
>  efficient functioning of WDDM.
> > This group of Administrators can be seen as the WDDM proper - an Organization
> > within the larger pool (or association) of associate members. Any Associate
> > Member can apply to become an Administrator. Such applications are processed
> > and approved by all current Administrators.
> >
> > PROPOSED RULES:
> >
> > RULE A: Only the current Administrators shall hold authority to create or amend
> > the WDDM Operating Rules or Constitution.
> ===========================================================
> Georges:
> Absolutely antidemocratic. Rules and Constitution
> should be amendable not only by all Members Forum,
> but by a minimum consensus thereof set by Forum and
> IMO not far from unanimity.
> Clearly and exactly the Kibbutz procedure and I frequently
> advised DD activists to make a stage in a Kibbutz in
> order to learn what they are talking about.
> In usual terms Administrators
>  are the Executive and
> Forum - the DD Legislative. Even in darkest Particracy
> Constitutions stay beyond Executive powers and are
> amendable exclusively by the Legislative, if not by
> Referenda.
> ===========================================================
> > RULE B: All members can make suggestions relating to WDDM's operations, but
> > final decisions shall be made only by a consensus of the organization's
> > Administrators.
> >
> > RULE C: Any Administrator, who fails to vote at official WDDM polls (for more
> > than five (5) times or more) during a period of more than six (6) months
> > without an acceptable reason submitted to the Operating Members shall be
> > relegated to Associate Member status.
> >
> > RULE D: Any Administrator member shall be relegated to Associate Member status
> > should 75 percent of the Administrators vote in favour of such a motion.
> >
> > To become a WDDM (Associate)
>  MEMBER: an individual must complete the
> > application form found at www.world-wide-democracy.net.
> >
> > To become an ADMINISTRATOR: a member shall have actively participated in WDDM
> > discussions for no less than six (6) months and must complete the application
> > form found at www.world-wide-democracy.net.
> >
> > End of the proposal ----------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Attachment to the Proposal:
> >
> > The Administrator application form will contain the fields for the applicant's
> > full real name and mailing address, and the following information on the
> > approval process:
> > 1. The Administrator Member Application is sent to all the current
> > Administrator Members for review.
> > 2. The Administrator Application Review will be completed within 90 days.
> > 3. An applicant will be immediately accepted as a WDDM Administrator if not
> > more than 20% of the
>  current Administrators have any objections to her/his
> > Membership.
> > 4. An applicant will be immediately rejected if 80% or more of the
> > Administrators are against her/his Administrator Membership.
> > 5. If none of 3. or 4. applies, the application is suspended until a consensus
> > (either 3. or 4.) is achieved.
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > We are looking for your votes!
> >
> > The initial Active Members/Administrators