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00298: Re: [cicdd] EU Referendum and EU Constitution

From: "Franz Isemann" <mehr.demokratie(at)chiemgau-online.de>
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:41:15 +0200
Subject: Re: [cicdd] EU Referendum and EU Constitution

Dear Bruce and all,
I find it remarkable, how you from Wisconsin have indulged in this European matter. We could not have explained it any better. It is exactly as you say.
Yours sincerely
Franz
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Subject: [cicdd] EU Referendum and EU Constitution

5/30/2005

 Dear All who are remarking on the EU Referendum and EU Constitution

The EU --------constitution

There seems to be confusion on what is being voted upon. The EU is quite well established and is not likely to be "voted out". It would likely take a massive political uprising to stop the EU from forming. There-fore, you are not voting on whether to have a EU or not, the vote is strictly to accept the EU Constitution as written or not. That said, I believe a European Government is in the best interest of Europeans. To accomplish this without severely disrupting cultural and societal established norms is problematic. It requires that each Nation have definite input and compromise be accomplished which protects the Liberties of Nation states as well as individuals.

The initial forming of the EU was corporate. (1958) The function was trade and economics and included developing an EU bank. Of course this money control also provides control of other things, which could be the dilemma. They who control the money, controls all. This CORPORATE structure has designed this EU Constitution. It is no surprise it favors CORPORATIONS not people.

The Treaty of Rome refers to the treaty which established the European Economic Community (EEC) and was signed by France, West Germany, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg on March 25, 1957. Its original full name was Treaty establishing the European Economic Community -- however the Treaty of Maastricht amended it and among other things removed the word "Economic" from the name of both the community and the treaty. The treaty is therefore now generally called the Treaty establishing the European Community or the EC Treaty. Came into force 1 January 1958.

Reading the EU Constitution soon shows the totally dictatorial and un-democratic structure it envisions.

The President of the European Commission is notionally the highest ranking unelected official within the European Union.

http://www.answers.com/topic/president-of-the-european-commission

 Supranationalism is a method of decision-making in international organizations, where power is held by independent appointed officials or by representatives elected by the legislatures or people of the member states. Member-state governments still have power, but they must share this power with other actors. Furthermore, decisions are made by majority votes, hence it is possible for a member-state to be forced by the other member-states to implement a decision against its will.

Of course the people think they have a voice in the EU Parliament.  Although attempts were made in the 1980s and 90s to expand its powers, the parliament remains largely a consultative body. In most cases its opinion is not binding; the final vote on legislation proposed by the European Commission , as well as amendments proposed by the parliament, rests with the Council of the European Union .  If your "elected" representatives in the EU Parliament have no power, YOU have no power.

Oh, the Council has the power? who are they? It gets real confusing but eventually you can track the power to Corporate heads. Is this who you want to have that kind of power over you?

So the "vote" is truly on acceptance of the EU Constitution, not whether to form an EU or not. In my opinion, the EU Constitution should be shredded and a totally new EU Constitution written with input from the people as is possible now with the Net.

If Europe accepts this EU Constitution, with no basic rights, no divided powers, no ability to directly affect the decisions being made, I believe that Europeans will become slaves to the master.

Article I-46: The principle of participatory democracy

A significant number of citizens, no less than one million, coming from a significant number of Member States may invite the Commission to submit any appropriate proposal on matters where citizens consider that a legal act of the Union is required for the purpose of implementing this Constitution.  A European law shall determine the provisions regarding the specific procedures and conditions required for such a citizens' request.

Unfortunately many believe Article I-46 provides for I&R. It does not. It makes provision that a law shall be made to determine specific procedures. This "law" will be made by the people that provided the EU Parliament as advisory. The people will not make this law, they will have to follow it.

Right now, provision (law) could be made for the EU Ombudsman to recruit one person from each nation and write provisions for I&R&R which could only be changed by a referendum of all the people of the EU. This "law" would need to be in the "new" EU Constitution. The EU Constitution does allow changes, even though it is being voted upon. (strange)

 The US does not need a EU Clone of us, we need a democratic EU which will help us save US.

The present un-democratic EU Constitution must be defeated.

Sincerely, Bruce

"In sharing, in loving all and everything, one people naturally found a due portion of the thing they sought,
      while in fearing, the other found need of conquest."
Chief Luther Standing Bear - Oglala Sioux

Bruce Eggum, Gresham Wisconsin, USA
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