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00238: Re: Ale hop ... and Participative Budgets

From: Doug Everingham <dnevrghm(at)powerup.com.au>
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:22:24 +1000
Subject: Re: Ale hop ... and Participative Budgets

Dear Leo and friends,

I note your claim below: "Spain is being the gateway into
Europe of this procedure of Participative Democracy."

This suggests to me that you are impressed by the magnificent example of
the Mondragón Co-operative Corporation which has grown steadily, first
in the north of Spain, to include tens of thousands of participants. They are
networking (with cross-liaison among related services and adjoining levels
of administration) to supply a wide range of services. Each participant
('stakeholder') in each process and project there has maximum
opportunity to contribute to the decision making. They have an excellent
competitive record in nearly all aspects. This is well documented by Dr
Shann Turnbull, Principal,
International Institute for Self-governance, http://ssrn.com/author=26239
I can e-mail on request a copy of his 80-pages 2002 pocket-book
'A New Way to Govern -- Organisations and society after Enron'.
A similar initiative in the Netherlands is documented by the
Sociocratisch Centrum http://www.sociocracy.biz
I look forward to your report on Participative Budgets.
-- Doug Everingham
Queensland state co-ordinator for ISPO
(International Simultaneous Policy Organisation www.simpol.org ]
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Leopoldo Salgui <lsalgui(at)demopunk.net> wrote on May 8, 2005
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net, Democracy Europe <democracy-europe(at)yahoogroups.com>, teameuropechat(at)yahoogroups.com
Subject: Ale hop ... and Participative Budgets

Dear friends,
I beg your pardon to delay my contributions to the WDDM's workshop on
Monitoring Democracy and my poor support of the TEAM's activities.

During last weeks we have been hardly working at a comprehensive report on the
governmental propaganda activities during the Spanish plebiscite. The Spanish
version can be downloaded from
http://www.demopunk.net/sp/intern/europe/pcon_index_sp.html#INFO20F

However the English version is still an incomplete (but available) work
http://www.demopunk.net/en/intern/europe/pcon_index_en.html#INFO20F
because the Spanish Supreme Court has just required us to formalize our
lawsuit against the electoral authorities due to relinquishment of functions.
I will keep you informed on this affair.

On the other side, I am trying to fulfil a petition from Mirek Kolar to keep
you informed on the Participative Budgets in Spain. This month the Spanish
magazine "El Viejo Topo" publishes a report on the 1-year experience of the
Participative Budgets in Seville. [I am in charge of the section Europe of
the magazine]

Seville is a big city in the South of Spain (over 2 millions of inhabitants).
I am trying to get the electronic copy of the report and to get in touch its
author with the European democracy activism. Spain is being the gateway into
Europe of this procedure of Participative Democracy.
http://www.demopunk.net/sp/sp/direct/porto/pp.html

Regards, Leo


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