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02687: Re: [WDDM] Re: [analytical-indicant-theory] check this out

From: "M. Kolar" <wddm(at)mkolar.org>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 06:28:13 -0700
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Re: [analytical-indicant-theory] check this out

Georges,
Your post below seems to be as helpful for improving the relations
between different peoples as the spreading of "The Protocols of the
Elders of Zion".
It definitely has nothing to do with our subject matter - the promotion
of direct democracy. If not outright racist, it's highly intolerant and
contains lies (e.g., those Muslims have not come to Europe as
"conquerors and colonizers" as you write but were being wooed by Western
European countries in the past decades in the periods of labour
shortages as workers, also because they were willing to work for less
than locals). Your text is not compatible with the principle binding to
all members that we put at
http://www.world-wide-democracy.net/join.php after the previous hate
incident here (of which you were the immediate target):

**THE MEMBERSHIP IN WDDM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH MEMBERSHIP IN GROUPS THE
GOAL OF WHICH IS RESTRICTION OF DEMOCRACY, OR IN GROUPS, MOVEMENTS AND
PARTIES OF RACIST OR NEO-NAZI TYPE, AND WITH THE PROMOTION OF THE VIEWS
OF SUCH GROUPS.
WDDM is strictly based on the principal of equality of all ethnic groups
and nationalities.**

Mirek


Georges Metanomski wrote:
--- On Sun, 10/17/10, Saicho(at)aol.com<Saicho(at)aol.com> wrote:

Europe's Identity Crisis Fuels Rising Anti-Muslim Sentiment:

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/europes-identity-crisis-fuels-rising-anti-muslim-sentiment/19670466

I checked it and here are my conclusions, possibly interesting for
other lists:

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Europe is what it is, due to having defeated two deadly Muslim
conquests, the first by Charles Martel at the Battle of Poitiers
in 732, and the second by the Polish King Sobieski, who heading
the Polish relief of the Vienna siege, smashed the Ottoman army
in 1683.

But Europe won't stay long what it is, because one can
hardly see how the concurrent third conquest can be
defeated.

On the one hand it is already half way through. Millions of
Muslims abusing of tolerant Democracies have penetrated Europe,
established themselves in welfare provided quarters, eradicating
European culture in their neighborhoods and replacing it with
imported rules and attitudes often appearing to the autochthons
as barbarities and sparking more or less violent confrontations.
The key to the problem is integration and assimilation.
Several European countries have many Polish, Italian, Russian or
Vietnamese immigrants. But one does not hear about Italians making
world wide stir because a cartoonist made fun of the Porca Madonna,
nor about Poles murdering a filmmaker who ridiculized "stupid
Polacks", nor about Russian riots injuring hundreds and devastating
whole districts, nor about Vietnamese terrorist attacks.

But one gets all that from Muslim immigrants. What is the
difference between Muslims and other immigrants? Mainly,
their view of the country that takes them in. Poles and
Italians saw in France an opportunity to get better jobs and
the living quality superior to what they had at home.
Russians and Vietnamese saw additionally in France a life
saving asylum from Gulag oppression. They all like, if not love
France with her habits and consider their own traditions not
as antagonistic. but as complementary. They may be called
"immigrants" in full and positive sense.

But Muslims come not as immigrants, but as conquerors and
colonizers. They despise and dislike, if not hate Europe.
They bring along the bags of their ideology - irreconcilable
with the European - which they intend to impose, requesting
Sharia to replace local laws.

As for me, if my wife goes astray and we have a little argument, I
would hate to see Sharia Law butt in and sentence her to be stoned. Equally, I would hate Sharia Law force my kid daughter to have her
clitoris cut out with a rusty razor blade with no anesthetic or
sterilization.

And looking around in France where I live, I'll find over 50 million
sharing my aversion,

But about 5 million would fanatically argue for what we abhor, with
an absolute justification by Allah's will and Sharia law.
No reconciliation is possible with fanatics. Pulling down your pants
advanced by the author of the link "to be checked" and other pseudo
humanitarians, can only add fuel to the flames and bring Europe to
the brink of civil wars.

So my advise to the American poster suggesting, with obvious penchant for Sharia, to check the link, would be: leave Europe alone and
promote Sharia in America, following the recommendation of Ayesha
Ahmed.

Ayesha Ahmed describes below this option, based on the absolute
bedrock and assuring for America the solution of all her problems
and a rosy future. In perfect accord with Obama's Cairo Creed, thus
quite realistic.
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Ayesha Ahmed
Sharia in America

Omar M. Ahmad founder of The Council on American-Islamic Relations
(CAIR) said:"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" he said. "The Koran, the Muslim book of
scripture, should be the highest authority in America , and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth," he said.

Americans should give a serious thought to CAIR's agenda.. If Islam and sharia is adopted in America , It will be great. .

Muslims are right. Non of the existing Islamic countries are truly Islamic, that is why they don't progress and most of them are poor,
corrupt and miserable. We must implement 100% sharia and sunna to get full benefits of Islam. Inshallah we will try to do it in USA to
make it the first real Muslim country after the days of rightly guided khalifas Consider the following advantages:

- America can go to jihad against non Muslim countries. It will bring immense wealth in booty and millions of captured women. Canada and
Mexico can be easy targets and are conveniently located for easy assault and hauling of booty.

-Since slavery will be allowed government can open slave markets to sell it's 20% share of the captured women.

-Captured women/slave-girls can provide affordable domestic help for house wives and clean enjoyable sex for their husbands.

-Enslaved men can be used as farm labor and factory workers at a much lower cost than unionized labor.

-Unemployed men from the prohibited non Islamic businesses like TV, Photography, computers, mortgage companies, music industry etc can
be hired as religious police for the Ministry of Prevention of Vice and Promotion of Virtues . They can be used to beat up women
violating burqa laws, arrest men with undersize beards and whip the non religious types found loitering at prayer times.

-Since men will be allowed four wives and unlimited number of slave girls, population boom will result in making the fastest growing
religion grow even faster.

-All non muslims will live under dhimmi rules and pay heavy Jizya. Budget deficits will be a thing of the past.

Stoning of adulterers, whipping of alcohol drinkers, cutting of hands and feet of thieves and beheadings of apostates can be carried out
after Juma prayers on Fridays in the local stadium. Gate charge for this gory and exciting weekly spectacle can generate a lot of revenue.

-Unemployed male gynecologists can be hired to carry out circumcisions of new male converts.

-Female circumcision can be made mandatory to promote piety and holiness and discourage lewdness among women.

-Marriage age for girls can be lowered to 6 years. That will reduce the burden of support of large poorer families and also promote a
sunna, the tradition set by the holy prophet (peace be up on him).

-Whole Ramadan will be declared as public holidays so that every one can pray and recite the Quran.. Why work in the only month in which
all ibadah and Quran recitals are worth 70 times the normal sawab (reward)?.

-Shia Muslims on temporary out of town business assignments will be able to do a temporary marriage (Muta) and enjoy home comfort
outside of home.

-Since menstruation is a disease according to Quran all menstruating women will be given time off to rest in bed during their periods.

-All toilet seats in the public rest rooms will be reoriented so that one does not defecate facing Mecca .

-All public toilets will have buckets of stones instead of toilet tissues for claiming after defecation as a movement to implement sunna
in the country.

-Separate bins along roadside will be placed to drop bones and dried animal feces for jins to snack on.

-Spiraling medical costs can be brought down by the following two prong approaches:

-Imams can be placed in the clinics to recite Quranic ayas (verses) and blow on the patients and pray for them . Their fee will be
a fraction of what doctor's charge.

- All pharmacies will be required to dispense black cumin, honey, Indian incense and camel urine as cure for all diseases as
recommended by the holy prophet (pbuh). The cost will be a fraction of today's medicines.

-Spiralling prison costs will come down due to the following:

-All men serving time for the crime of rape will be freed if four male witnesses had not testified in the trial. Even if four
male witnesses had testified, the criminal will be freed under insanity provision , since only mentally insane will rape in front of
four witnesses.

-All men serving sentences for beating wives will be freed as under new American sharia law wife beating will be allowed.

-All thieves will be freed after cutting their hands and feet.

-All pedophiles will be freed as sex with children will not be against law any more.

-All slayers of unbelievers will be freed if they converted to Islam.

All these result in savings and prosperity and happiness for all. InshaAllah!
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