Hi Hamid,
I believe that the political parties have an important role to
play to run the country.
Consider that the country is a company. Each voter has 1 share
in the company. The shareholders will appoint (vote) directors and the
directors will appoint managers. These people are responsible to ensure that
the company runs well.
At a shareholders AGM meeting decisions are made to give policy
and specific instructions. If the shareholders are unhappy with the directors’
decisions they can call a Special General Meeting (referendum).
I consider that those involved in DD should set up the system to
educate the members of political parties and the population to move towards
DD.
The Swiss system seems to work well to the extent that there are
more people voting for the referendums than to vote for the political parties.
Regards
Jim Powell South Africa
From: Hamid Mohseni
[esi1mohseni2(at)hotmail.com]
Sent: 29 Oct 2009 10:30 AM
To: World Direct Democracy
Subject: RE: [WDDM] Re: GlobalDemo.org now ready...
Hi
Jim
To repeat, I can not point any governing political party there
politicians practically work as employees of voters. Do you?
Those governing parties I know, work on the principle that
politicians work as leaders and not employees even though
they are elected by voters who has no other alternatives based on DD
principles. It is therefore I participate in WDDM
and some other organisations to create governing parties based on DD
princilples.
Did Mandela asked for refrandoms and peoples votings before he made his
decisions when he was on power? No he acted
as leader and not employee.
Regards
Hamid
From: autoinfo(at)acenet.co.za
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:33:20 +0200
Subject: RE: [WDDM] Re: GlobalDemo.org now ready...
Hi Hamid
To repeat, set up a DD organisation, set up community
organizations that operate on DD principles and have the members openly join a
political party and change from within.
Politicians are the employees of the voters. Voters decide who
gets employed and voters pay the salaries
Regards
Jim Powell South Africa
From: Esi
[esi1mohseni2(at)hotmail.com]
Sent: 27 Oct 2009 07:55 PM
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Re: GlobalDemo.org now ready...
I
am satisfied with discussions and international communications via WDDM.
I
wonder if we can go one step longer and make real changes toward dirrect
democracy in the world as example by voting on different subjects and sending
the results to authorities in
different
countries and UN? Subjects can be suggested by anyone, facts about the subjects
gathered or/and referred to by anyone, ideas and solution alternative discussed
and suggested by
anybody who
is interested of the subject, voting / refrandoms arranged by WDDM and its
members and afterward the results be sended to authorities who can make real
changes.
Are
there any other suggestions about how we can progress to real changes?
Sent: Monday, October 26,
2009 9:50 PM
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Re:
GlobalDemo.org now ready...
Dear Antonio,
It really does. WDDM seems to be perfect for networking with other people
interested in DD.
Perhaps it's because you can take it or leave it, go away for a few months,
come back, give your opinion when and if you want to..
Convenience is very important to people and WDDM have got that right.
However, there is a lot of time that's going to waste, not because the ideas in
here are not valid but because I think there will be a massive new age of
censorship aimed at the Web and we will end up divided and unable/afraid to
exchange "dangerous" ideas. This is coming, there is no question.
Then we will wish we would have DONE something sooner. I wish I was wrong,
missinformed or paranoid.
From: Antonio Rossin <rossin(at)tin.it>
To: worldcit(at)googlegroups.com
Cc: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Sent: Monday, 26 October, 2009 7:53:53
Subject: [WDDM] Re: GlobalDemo.org now ready...
Hi James,
everything helps.
Anyway, I was thinking about the democratic necessity of
having an overall DD website to collect, co-ordinate and
show ALL our DD activities, proposals, etc., and supposed
the WDDM website already performed this DD function.
Regards,
antonio
James Sadri ha scritto:
> Hi Antonio,
>
> There are direct democracy advocates who are not into global/transnational
democracy and vice-versa, so to me they're not the same thing. Anyway, if you
think we're replicating something, let's find a way to work together.
>
> Just for clarification, *GlobalDemo.org is not a direct democracy
website*, it's not somewhere we vote and make decisions. It somewhere to find out
more, discuss opinions, network and find out how to take action.
>
> We have had this discussion many times along the way and we decided there
were many places where people come together to vote but that this neutral
platform wasn't going to be one of them.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> J
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Antonio Rossin <rossin(at)tin.it> wrote:
>
>
> Hi
>
> it looks like all DD lovers volunteers and activists are
> going to set-up a DD web site and a DD Charter each
> (myself excluded )
>
> antonio
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James Sadri ha scritto:
> > Hello friends,
> >
> > After much work (all voluntary) from many people we have
finally
> > arrived at a website that we think serves as a platform
for the
> > various people/groups who make up the global
> > democracy/mundialist/world citizen movement.
> >
> > There will undoubtedly be problems with the site - which
is why
> we are
> > launching it to this list first - but please use the
'feedback'
> tab on
> > the right hand side to help us improve it with your bug
reports and
> > suggestions. There is a little users guide that we're
drawing up for
> > the site, but for the moment let's try and test how
> > intuitive/confusing it is.
> >
> > Almost everything in the site is editable by the
community (that
> means
> > you!) so if you're not happy with a particular section -
change it!
> > Just click on the 'edit' tab at the top of the post.
Don't worry
> > though, previous revisions are automatically stored so
you can't
> > delete things by mistake..
> >
> > We're thinking of hiring some professional designers to
add the
> > finishing touches to the site, but for now it would be
great to get
> > some feedback on how it works and what features you like
or not.
> >
> > Check it out: GlobalDemo.org <http://GlobalDemo.org>
> >
> > _About the site_
> >
> > *Local/Global*
> >
> > The site has been structured to encourage local/national
activity
> > while also being global at the same time. This is
because we believe
> > that although we're dealing with global issues,
local/national
> action
> > is critical to getting things done.
> >
> > So on your 'country page', for example, there is a forum
which shows
> > posts from all over the world which you can add to. You
can however
> > limit it to posts from your country only.
> >
> > Similarly, on country pages there is a sidebar with
information
> about
> > local groups, politicians, etc and their positions
regarding global
> > democracy.
> >
> > *Events*
> >
> > You can view events from your country or elsewhere on
your country
> > page, where you can also add you own events.
> >
> > *Organisations*
> >
> > However, there is also an 'organisations' page which
lists global
> > organisations and initiatives. You can identify yourself
as a
> > supporter of a particular initiative or organisation and
the popular
> > ones are listed on the right.
> >
> > *Library*
> >
> > The 'library' is somewhere where you can read/watch
articles and
> films
> > about global democracy and discuss them in the comments.
You can
> also
> > recommend library items and again popular items will be
shown on the
> > right. The library can be restricted by language too.
> >
> > *Member profiles*
> >
> > As a result of feedback, we made member profiles quite
sophisticated
> > so we can learn more about each other. Each user has a
listing of
> > recommended books and organisations they support as well
as a
> > 'real-life network' where they can show which people on
the site
> they
> > have actually met.
> >
> > *Languages*
> >
> > We have setup the site to be fully translatable, with
the official
> > source language being English. We've got a way to go
with
> translation
> > - so far German is the only language with near complete.
We need
> your
> > help. If you could help translating the site (the text
on
> buttons etc)
> > into other languages please get in touch at
> > <translations(at)globaldemo.org>
.
> > Translators have a little web interface so they can
translate
> the site
> > while they surf.
> >
> > *Who are we?*
> >
> > The GlobalDemo.org webteam is a group of volunteers.
Details are
> here
> > http://globaldemo.org/en/about
. We'd love anyone and everyone to
> > join, so get in touch if you'd like to help out.
> >
> > *Finally...*
> >
> > Thank you to everyone who has helped out along the way
(so far).
> > Everyone is always busy with other projects so I think
we should
> > celebrate the fact that we managed to come together and
achieve this
> > neutral platform for the movement.
> >
> > Thanks to: Alan, Bruce, Chris, Didier, Filip, Fred,
Josep, Ken,
> > Mikael, Rob, Rasmus, Ryan, Rufo, Shimri, Tabs and
everyone else who
> > has contributed at one time or another..
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > GlobalDemo.org Webgroup
> >
>
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