RE: [WDDM] Why I support World Government?

["David Parker" <davefparker(at)shaw.ca>]

People are lazy and prefer to abdicate personal responsibility to a leader whether it be God or Government.

I'll take twenty minutes out of my busy life to go vote for you. You take care of everything while I get back on the couch and masturbate and participate in American Idol worship for $0.99 cents a minute then later I'll buy a bucket of chicken for $3.99 and watch a summary on how our bombers are killing nasty foreign women and children that want to see us dead so they can steal our tell lie visions, burn our gas and eat our food

“To be GOVERNED is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be GOVERNED is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be place[d] under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonored. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality.” (P.-J. Proudhon, General Idea of the Revolution in the Nineteenth Century, translated by John Beverly Robinson (London: Freedom Press, 1923), pp. 293-294.)

What happened to the commonwealth and cooperatives? A highly organized and efficient society where compassion and caring are more important than glory and wealth is going to take a huge paradigm shift. Most of the globe has been indoctrinated into the later with no regard for the former. We know the education system isn't there to enlighten people. It is there to make obedient wage debt slaves. Is it so hard to believe the tell lie vision is there to do any different? There is no news, just fear mongering. There is no education, just indoctrination into the elites imminent domain authoritarian society. The same crap about the cream rising to the top and benevolent god men that have nothing but the interests of the common people at heart.

Progressive ideas are not allowed into the public consciousness. Look at history and what happens to progressives. From the Gracchi through Julius Caesar, the dark ages, the inquisition, JFK, MX, MLK, RFK and millions of other dead on the road to global empire. Now that it's just around the corner the propaganda has increased and dissent is met directly with death if it becomes at all popular.

Sure we have had some advancements such as the end of abject slavery, the act of selling yourself into slavery over debts, the eight hour work day, habeas corpus, some basic human rights and personal liberties. All of which are under attack at all times. Habeas corpus is gone, debt slavery is rampant, long work days for little pay and no overtime are common as well all the hard fought rights are disappearing daily, phone taps and reading emails.

This is what we can continue to expect from any government whether global or regional. On a global scale we would be easily manipulated into a nationalist fervor over some staged Alien'Qaeda threat.

Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, probably the first person to call himself an Anarchist - In the Principle of Federation (1863) he argued that nationalism inevitably leads to war. To reduce the power of nationalism Proudhon called for a Federal Europe. Proudhon believed that Federalism was "the supreme guarantee of all liberty and of all law, and must, without soldiers or priests, replace both feudal and Christian society." Proudhon went on to predict that "the twentieth century will open the era of federations, or humanity will begin again a purgatory of a thousand years." Look at all the wars since then both open and proxy that continue to this day in many countries simultaneously. I can think of half a dozen countries currently under the yoke of the secret service agitators and dictatorial manipulation of our wealthy corporate self appointed god men.

Of course that's just my opinion and I could be wrong. If so please enlighten me and raise me to a higher level of understanding.

http://members.shaw.ca/davefparker/
http://www.illuminati-news.com/Articles/65.html

Cheers. Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Eggum [bruce.eggum(at)gmail.com]
Sent: July 26, 2009 12:22 PM
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Why I support World Government?

Need a glossary. EU meaning of Government differs from US English. Here, government includes Executive, Legislative, Judicial and infrastructure - agency's.
DD should run it ALL. Executive or administrator should also fall under the peoples authority. Else, the exec could dictate to all. Keeping the dictator is loony.

Bruce Eggum
Gresham Wisconsin, USA
http://usinitiative.com
http://vote.org/

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:02 PM, <Georges Metanomski> wrote:

A good start would be to stop confusing Government or Executive
with Legislature.
DD is about people's Legislature.
Only in most exclusive loony bins there may be question of Executive
run directly by people.
Georges.

--- On Sun, 7/26/09, <Bruce Eggum> wrote:

> From: Bruce Eggum
> Subject: Re: [WDDM] Why I support World Government?
> To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
> Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 6:49 PM

> "so if you're going to create a
> World Government, you have to start with the perfect
> model."
> I don't demand perfection, however if we develop a
> model capable of change with principles and limits defined
> we can together do this.
>
> Competition would be improvement vs
> stagnation/disfunction.
>
> Bruce Eggum
> Gresham Wisconsin, USA
> http://usinitiative.com
> http://vote.org/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:37 PM,
> Lata Gouveia <latalondon(at)yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
> Humm... ok.
> I see what you mean by supporting World Government.
> I have two issues with it. First of all, which system would
> this World Government adopt? I fail to see which one is the
> best beyond all doubt. Secondly, in the interest of
> evolution, if there were no competing models, there would be
> no empirical evidence to support reform, so if you're
> going to create a World Government, you have to start with
> the perfect model.
>
> Look at how Obama is trying to reform health care in the
> US. I others models didn't exist that deliver better and
> fairer care for cheaper, he would not have an argument for
> reform.
>
> The sentiment is good, though, I like it.
>
> __
>
> --- On Sun, 26/7/09, <Hamid Mohseni >
> wrote:
>
>
> From: Hamid Mohseni
> Subject: RE: [WDDM] Why I support World Government?
> To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
>
> Date: Sunday, 26 July, 2009, 5:56 PM
>
>
>
>
> And I support your desire if the world is governed by
> direct democracy principles.
>
> The question is how we can do install and practicize it?
>
> There always exist individuals who wants more than others
> and don't respect other peoples rights. How can we
> defend people against such egoists which many of them are
> powerful and have illegal contact nets?
>
>
> Wonder
>
> Hamid
>
>
> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:06:27 -0700
> From: sayusufzai(at)gmail.com
> To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
>
> Subject: [WDDM] Why I support World Government?
>
>
> As
> desired
> Why I
> support World Government?
> I
> support a World Government so that the present helpless
> effete UN may be substituted in to effective
> Democratic World
> Government. Who
> will treat the human beings on the base of humanity instead
> of nationality.
>
>  I
> support a World Government so that the sustainable peace,
> prosperity and justice may be prevailed World wide
> equally.
>
> I
> support a World Government so that the difference in
> standard of life between citizens of developed and under
> –developed countries may be equalized World wide equally.
> .
>
> I
> support a World Government so that the true Democratic World
> Orders may be prevailed World wide.
> I
> support a World Government so that the present
> Nation-to-Nation exploitation may be restricted.
> I
> support a World Government because under which the human
> will enjoy the actual LIBERTY, as the present
> restrictions of boundaries among nations will be
> removed.
>
> The
> human beings is basically and naturally the co-share and
> co-heirs of the whole Earth and its natural resources
> although as such it become human right to enjoy the
> resources of the Earth equally but under the prevailed
> orders it is impossible for each human being to enjoy it.
> Therefore I support World Government ander which the human
> beings on Earth will be able to enjoy his heir right World
> -wide equally.
>
> I
> support a World government because it will generate strict
> competition in the Markets of the World which will not only
> decrease the prices of commodities but also good quality of
> commodity will be available in all Markets of the
> World.
>
> I
> support a World government so that the local, national and
> international monopolization may be discouraged.
> I
> support a World government so that the poor nations and
> countries may be developed.
> I
> support a World Government so that to share the Ruling
> power, better resources of income and high standard of life
> with Elite people.
>
> I
> support a World government so that the World standard
> Education system may be initiated everywhere on
> Earth.
> I support a World
> government because the prevailed worldwide terrorism could
> only be restricted through World Law under World
> Government.
> The unity
> of the human community under World Government will lead to
> sustainable peace and prosperity.
> It is
> stated briefly although there are numerous causes of
> supporting World Government.
> Further
> details are available for interested
> Citizens /Thinkers.
>
>  Best wishes
>
> Sabzali
> Khan yusufzai
> Authors of
> True Democracy (Professionalism) for World Government.