Good thinkers on this feed. Socialism a democracy are actually separated by not much, other than terminology. Once you have found a solution to minority rights issues, it becomes obvious that a truly democratic system would naturally spawn a socialist type society.
I must therefore re-iterate the notion that the representative system is a serious distortion of the democratic ideal. It creates a power cartel which distorts any notion of true political equality, in the same way corporate cartels ridicule any chance of a fair system of wealth distribution.
It is a human dysfunction though. We can try to fix politics and the economy but as long as human beings remain possessed by the notion of more and more... the outcome will be the same.
--- On Tue, 2/6/09, Esi
<esi1mohseni2(at)hotmail.com> wrote: From: Esi <esi1mohseni2(at)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [WDDM] Democracy rating To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net Date: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 6:55 PM
Hi
Probably direct democracy would gradually change
the society to some kind of democratic socialism if it is not disturbed or
stopped by powerfull undemocratic actors from outside or inside
the country who protects their
undemocratic benefits and advantages against threat from democratic
systems.
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:31 AM
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Subject: RE: [WDDM] Democracy rating
Hi
Bruce,
My
response/counter questions follows ***
Is democracy possible with
capitalism? *** Is Switzerland
democratic? Can socialism be democratic?
*** Seems to be the best form for the benefit of the community What do
we need to do? *** Community organisations to be
set up along DD principles. Set up DD organisations in each area and have
members join established political parties to change from within the current
political system
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/treder20090601/ *** Interesting site
Regards
Jim
Powell
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Jim Powell <autoinfo(at)acenet.co.za
wrote:
Hi Parrhesia,
Thanks for the email.
It is a
good description to say that Democracy is a slippery word.
Throughout the
world democracy can best be described as a 5 year dictatorship where the term
of office is 5 years.
Switzerland has Direct Democracy at all levels of
government. Each of the Cantons and municipalities have differing levels of
Direct Democracy. Bottom of the list for level of democracy would be a
dictatorship
Has anyone got a system to assess level of democracy? Is
there an organisation that carries this out?
Regards
Jim Powell
-----Original Message----- From: Joseph Hammer Sent: 02 Jun
2009 02:48 AM To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Subject: RE: [WDDM] Democracy
rating
What do you mean by "Level of democracy"? What would a 100%
democracy be? Democracy is a slippery
word.
Parrhesia
-----Original Message----- From: Jim Powell Sent: Monday,
June 01, 2009 4:01 AM To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net Subject:
[WDDM] Democracy rating
Hi All,
Is there a method where the level
of democracy in a country can be measured or is there an organisation that
does this?
Is there a table where countries are ranked? I would expect
that Switzerland would be close to the top and Mynamar (Burma) would be close
to the bottom.
Regards
Jim
Powell
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