From: | Bruce Eggum <bruce.eggum(at)gmail.com> |
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Date: | Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:30:49 -0500 |
Subject: | Re: [WDDM] Democracy rating |
Is democracy possible with capitalism? *** Is Switzerland democratic?depends --- Swiss I&BR is more
democratic than most representative governments. A note from a Swiss they have
trouble gaining enough signatures for an initiative.Can socialism be democratic? *** Seems to be the best form for the benefit of the
community ---- The problem with Democracy is lack of participants.
Perhaps if people were given more “direct” responsibility they would
participate. However the participants may be of a group, corporations or elite.
Than the workers would be in the same pickle. Union groups often influence
their members, same pickle. Need to develop a “constitution” of how socialism
would provide equality. Your suggestion next is very good.
What do we need to do? *** Community organisations
to be set up along DD principles. Set up DD organisations in each area and have
members join established political parties to change from within the current
political system
Hi Bruce,
My response/counter questions follows ***
Is democracy possible with capitalism? *** Is Switzerland democratic?
Can socialism be democratic? *** Seems to be the best form for the benefit of the community
What do we need to do? *** Community organisations to be set up along DD principles. Set up DD organisations in each area and have members join established political parties to change from within the current political system
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/treder20090601/ *** Interesting site
Regards
Jim Powell
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:09 AM, <Jim Powell> wrote:
Hi Parrhesia,
Thanks for the email.
It is a good description to say that Democracy is a slippery word.
Throughout the world democracy can best be described as a 5 year
dictatorship where the term of office is 5 years.
Switzerland has Direct Democracy at all levels of government. Each of the
Cantons and municipalities have differing levels of Direct Democracy. Bottom
of the list for level of democracy would be a dictatorship
Has anyone got a system to assess level of democracy? Is there an
organisation that carries this out?
Regards
Jim Powell
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Hammer
Sent: 02 Jun 2009 02:48 AM
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.netSubject: RE: [WDDM] Democracy rating
What do you mean by "Level of democracy"? What would a 100% democracy be?
Democracy is a slippery word.
Parrhesia
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Powell
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 4:01 AM
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Subject: [WDDM] Democracy rating
Hi All,
Is there a method where the level of democracy in a country can be measured
or is there an organisation that does this?
Is there a table where countries are ranked? I would expect that Switzerland
would be close to the top and Mynamar (Burma) would be close to the bottom.
Regards
Jim Powell