Dear Mr.Padmanabha,
both strategies (extraparliamentary pressure and
efforts to reach parliament using existing procedures) can and should be used at
the same time. But it is extremely difficult for DD organisations to compete
with established parties which have created all sorts of obstacles to prevent
competition. The current systems are illegal and criminal because they have been
put in place without any mandate from the citizens. Therefore it is legitimate
to fight against them by any means except to physically hurt people. Should we
rely on parliamentary procedures only, we could wait hundred years. Besides, to
only participate in elections means legitimizing the existing oligarchic
systems. If "all power comes from the people" as the myth says, then the people
is free to do anything to change the system. The only problem is to
mobilize "ordinary people" and make them stop behaving like sheep.
Sincerely,
Jiri Polak
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To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:31
PM
Subject: [WDDM] Re :[WDDM] What is the
AIM of WDDM? Mr. Jiri Polak, You have mentioned in your reply while
describing the actions needed to enforce a referendum - "Try to put a DD
person into Parliament...". This, I feel, should be the central aim.
If a strategy is devised to achieve this then all other things
like - attracting the man on the street and enforcing a referendum
for making amends to the constitution become easier. If this core
strategy is not there then it is difficult to convince people about the
practicability of other actions.
This is why I feel that a 'True
Democracy web platform' should first be set up that will lead on to putting DD
persons into the parliament by directly competing with political parties
during elections.
Vijayaraghavan P
On Mon, 27 Apr
2009 16:54:34 0200 wddm@world-wide-democracy.net wrote
Hello, there
are many good ideas on the Forum, but how to realize them? In Czech
Republic, in theory, we have a clear strategy: The basic principle is that
it is the people, not party politicians, who alone are entitled to write
and adopt a Constitution establishing a political system. If you let party
politicians to do that - as the case has been everywhere - they will put
in place a Constitution giving all power to political parties. We - a few
independent citizens - have proposed and published a Citizens´ Constitution by amending the existing one which we consider as only provisional. The
next step should be to enforce a referendum on this proposal. If
successful, the referendum would put in place a new Constitution and a new
political system. Such a system would probably contain many elements
proposed in the WWDN Forum. How to enforce a referendum? Seek publicity by
any non violent means; organize demonstrations, e.g. marches on the
Parliament like they do in Poland; a symbolic defenestration and the like.
Try to put a DD person into Parliament, get the support of some widely
known persons etc. The feasibilyty of such a strategy will obviously
depend on the degree of "shakeability" of the man-in-the-street. Maybe
people will remain passive and apathetic. In such a situation, we can only
hope for a global catastrophy. George Sagi has written a visionary book
called "Only from the Ruins". Maybe this will be the only way. But let´s
try to attempt something less drastical first! Jiri Polak
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Original Message ----- From: Vijayaraghavan Padmanabhan
To:
wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: [WDDM] Re :[WDDM] What is the AIM of WDDM? Bruce,I
wonder how you equated True Democracy with - "No president, No prime
minister etc. Just the people making decisions...". I think you have the
'anarchist' conception of democracy in mind.We have discussed a lot about
True Democracy on the Forum. I am giving a link that explains how the
concept of True Democracy is in tune with the existing kind of
representative democracy. It also explains how the tools of I&R can be integrated into the process of governance:
http://www.world-wide-democracy.net/forum/read.php?23,641,641#msg-641First we should get there into the corridors of government. This can be done
from the grass roots and this movement can do it provided it is not preoccupied with I&R only. Vijayaraghavan PadmanabhanOn
Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:00:46 -0500 wddm@world-wide-democracy.net wroteDirect
DemocracyIt isdifficult to go in two directions at once. I bring these
questions up so we maydiscuss it a bit. Of course this is my opinion; I am
looking for
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