Dan,
Person of authority in charge of security for the WTC buildings was either a friend or relative of the Bush family.
Planes were high-jacked using remote control technologies which have been around since the 1970's.
Bush/Clinton...elements of the Patriot Act already in place? True.
Plenty of motive for 9/11. Look what Hitler was able to accomplish by blowing up the German Reichstag and then blaming the Poles and Russians for the act.
9/11 towers came down using planted explosive demolition devices. The workers who died in the building that day were simply fodder for the neo-con/PNAC agenda. Those 3,000 lives meant nothing to Mossad or Dick Chaney.
Motive for all terrorism such as we are discussing is to inculcate fear into the middle-class by causing a crime and then blaming it on another party(such as Arabs). In chaos malevolent leaders can steal and plunder the wealth of nations.
RonWhite
--- On Fri, 4/17/09, Dan Smith <draciron(at)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Dan Smith <draciron(at)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [WDDM] I spit in your face, Disambiguation To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 6:11 PM
Those were NOT Israelis. Not unless they disguised themselves in Arab garb. I still have a copy of it somewhere. The excuse given was that free bread was given out, but those seem people still lead them. If I found out I was duped like that I'd been furious and removed those people from power.
If, is not the question, I am a Texan and may well face a superpower in the struggle for Texas independence. I would never resort to intentionally killing women and children. Killing soldiers and politicians, those are legit tactics and there's no shortage of those targets. Killing police in some circumstances is a legit target for a people at war with another nation. There are hundreds of insurgency movements over the last century that did not resort to terrorism. Terrorists are the exception. The IRA and Muslims are pretty much the only consistent groups. There were exceptions. The OK city
bombing an example. The Japanese gassing another. There is no excuse for blowing up buses and bombing shops and such. That is attempted genocide not a military objective.
The fact is that the tactics of the IRA damaged their cause and probably retarded their cause by 30 years or more. Had the IRA not resorted to bombing pubs and killing innocents they would have enjoyed strong support from many groups that turned away from the IRA in disgust over it's tactics. The Nazis may well have lost the Battle of Britain by switching to terror bombing from tactical bombing. The terror bombing strengthened English resolve and allowed English industry to rebuild. If I were a Palistinian I would target infrastructure, economics and military targets. I would execute ANY of my own who intentionally killed an innocent, especially a child. You might as well shoot your own people if you use terrorism.
Sorry
I don't buy the WTC conspiracy theory. First off show me the graveyard. After the JFK cover up hundreds of people disapeered or died young who were involved. There is no graveyard for 9-11. The thousands necessary for the US too pull off such an operation preclude the CIA involvement. The CIA can't blow it's nose without 20 Congressmen splattering the world with the details. How did the so called explosives get planted? You could not possibly put enough explosives to bring the building down without occupying office space, stairways and such. No way you'd get Americans to commit suicide as the "explosions" took place too high up for people to actually plant them and still get out in time. The planes were clearly photographed hitting the tower. I can go on and on. I've visited the 9-11 conspiracy sites. Loose change is so full of holes that even 9-11 conspiracists speak of it with derision. There was no motivation
for it. The invasion of Iraq was probably delayed by 9-11. Clinton was rumbling about invading Iraq before he left office and Bush was on the verge of it before 9-11 happened. Most of the elements of the Patriot act were already in place under Bush Sr and Clinton. The Patriot act just increased the numbers of wire taps and such and added the imprisonment without trial stupidity that the supreme court eventually rightly tossed. So why would both the Democrats and Republicans spend all that money and time and take such dire risks to accomplish what? There is no way that the US Gov could have accomplish such a plot without both parties being involved. The risk was literally death. If I honestly believed our own Gov was behind 9-11 I would be dragging the politicians involved out on the lawn and hanging them on the spot. The logic just isn't there. The motivation isn't there. The ability isn't
there.
The OK city bombings I'm more suspicious of. It would have taken only a small group to accomplish and the OK city bombing discredited the whole militia movement. Still I've seen no credible evidence of any Gov involvment in the OK city bombing. I have often wondered whether the Feds or a group at the behest of a Fed agent pulled the bombing off. I've come to the conclusion that McViegh simply was blinded by his anger. He did not consider the possibility of children being in the building and did not comprehend the number of innocents who'd be killed in striking at the Feds. Had McVeigh blown up only the top story of the building he'd been hailed as a hero. People were furious with the Feds and talk of revolt was starting.
Do you also believe that "Zionists" are behind all of it. A secret cabal of wealthy bankers that are secretly controllling the whole world. It's quite consistent with your other
stated beliefs.The way you state it is almost word for word what I've been swamped with by Neo-Nazis repeatedly over the last couple years. When it fails to sway me next I'm called something like a Mason or something else like that which makes me one of those shadowy forces. Follow your statements to their logical conclusion and it will be genocide. The imfamous "them" those mysterious shadowy figures who are responsible for all the bad things that ever happen too you. Hate to break it too you, the world is a whole lot more chaotic than that. I am just a nobody out to make the world better than when I entered it. I don't work for any government, I'm not an agent of any secret organization. I don't need some evil conspiracy to see wrong and fight it. Freedom is cause enough to fight.
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