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01821: Re: [WDDM] Regarding the social network site

From: Georges Metanomski <zgmet(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 07:41:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Regarding the social network site

--- ROY DAINE <rdaine(at)btinternet.com> wrote:

My mistake.

The government I mentioned was in fact this group
acting, like a kibbutz, as a direct democracy and
making a majority decision. I still disagree with
the decision, though I accepted that 'society's'
right to make it.

Now I'm a smoker, in the UK. Our government banned
smoking in certain places, because my right to smoke
infringed upon others' right to be free of smoke. It
also concerned our economy, via health provision
issues.

While I disagree with parts of the law, if our
government functioned as a DD and the law had been
decided by the majority, I would have accepted the
majority decision, because that is the duty of a
minority in a democracy. (Equates to your
'sincerity')

The onus would be on me, to then persuade a
majority to my point of view, if I chose to do so.
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G:
So far so good, but your next paragraph takes me into
deep waters.
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I have to restate my objection to the issue of
eating meat being a function of government, other
than in extreme circumstances, as explained
previously.
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G: Who talked about "the issue of eating meat being
a function of government"? It certainly may be
discussed and may perfectly lead to a vegetarian
community or kibbutz. Some kibbutzim decided to be
kasher and other ones not. Now, while kashrut is an
irrational religious dogma, meat consumption may be
rigorously, scientifically proved to be the most
noxious factor with respect to pollution and
starvation. Is that nor "extreme" enough to influence
the decision and the conduct of a sincere group?

Actually, your objection relates to the second DD
function - the Debate. For each proposed issue
Kibbutzim assure for all the equal chance to fully
understand, to request explanation, to argue and to
change opinion. You object without having heard any
arguments and without knowing much, if anything, about
the issue. In DD you would learn before objecting and
probably finish by agreeing.

Georges.
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