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01717: Re: [WDDM] Getting the whole picture about DD

From: Antonio Rossin <rossin(at)tin.it>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 23:38:07 +0100
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Getting the whole picture about DD

Georges Metanomski wrote:
--- Antonio Rossin <rossin(at)tin.it> wrote:


Georges Metanomski ha scritto:

--- Antonio Rossin <rossin(at)tin.it> wrote:



Georges,

There are some flaws about your three functions

(+1)

below:

1. Supporting individual proposals is at
powerholders' hands, who
usually support and select the proposals that are

in

support to just
themselves.


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G:
Once in DD, there is no "powerholder" else than

the

Forum. Support of individual proposals is a

function

of the logistic support, which accepts and

dieplays

proposals for the next step, the debate.
==============


(ant)
I agree on what you wrote, that in DD there is no
"powerholder" etc.

It is the word "Once" which makes me smile. You're
speaking as
if DD were just out of the door, ready to come in,

...
================
G:
Impossible to discuss if you don't read what I wrote
and put in my mouth the opposite of what I asserted.

QUOTE of Shadow Parliament
Three issues seem essential for starting to move
towards the DD:

1.Getting a Shadow Parliament within the Particracy.

2.Establish a logistic 3 Functions support.

3.Propound Sincerity, which appears to be the
critical condition of DD.
UNQUOTE

QUOTE
If Logistics requires at least a generation,
Sincerity will come still later, if ever,
UNQUOTE

So I don't speak about DD as if it were just
out of the door.

Yet, I suggest a DD based militant group viz. the
"Shadow Parliament", internally DD structured and to
which would internally apply all my DD assertions.

WDDM could evolve to such a group if it stopped
"discussing" silly cliches and decided to became
sincere.

Georges
================

Georges,

tell me please:

which condition sounds essential in order to:

(quote)
--------------
1.Getting a Shadow Parliament within the Particracy.

2.Establish a logistic 3 Functions support.

3.Propound Sincerity, which appears to be the
critical condition of DD.
---------------
(unquote)

Please explain.

Please notice, I don't put other words in your mouth.
You wrote, in your previous explanation:
"Once in DD, there is no 'powerholder' else than the
Forum.... There is no top, no down, no powerholding
and no
orchestration."

I guess, this is quite unrealistic a start. Really,
DD is not in, still. Me too, I'm looking forwards
to seeing DD to succeed. But unfortunately it is not.
Hence, the only reaistic start should be: "Since DD
is not in... what shall we do, to make it succeed?"
Anything else is dreaming, to say the least.

Yet we know, out of its definition, DD is made by
the people grassroots bottom-up. This means, people
only can be the DD-makers. Thence...

Regards,

antonio
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