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01434: Re: [WDDM] Anarchism and Direct Democracy

From: Antonio Rossin <rossin(at)tin.it>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:25:35 +0200
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Anarchism and Direct Democracy

Dear Mirek,

you did not answer my post.

Let me quote what you did not of it:

...

Well now, I have nothing against some inhabitants of
the world who decide to adopt a different, personal
meaning for words that have a shared meaning by the
remaining majority of the inhabitants the world.
But -- if they do so -- they are a sect, not a member
of democracy.

BTW, I go back to my shareable OAL dictionary, and
read under the item "sect":
- Sect = group of people who share (esp religious)
beliefs or opinions which differ from those of most
people.
Now, wikipedia's is a self-made dictionary. I have no
doubt that the self-claimed Anarchists wrote into it
the best definitions of themselves. But I do not find
out there any shareable definition for "sect", how this
term may fit to Anarchism.

Thanks anyway for your kindly detailed reply


antonio





M. Kolar ha scritto:
Dear Antonio,
your dictionary seems to be not very correct or maybe even
intentionally misleading on what is anarchism. Anarchists do not want
the absence of any control in society, but only the abolition of the
hierarchical authority - the same thing that we want. It was still a
surprise for me that modern anarchists are so close to genuine
democracy as you agreed in your reply!

Wikipedia gives a much better definition:

*Anarchism* is a political philosophy
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_philosophy> or group of
philosophies and attitudes which reject any form of compulsory
government <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government> (cf.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cf.> "state
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State>"), and support its elimination,
most often because of a wider rejection of any form of hierarchical
authority <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority>. The term
"anarchism" derives from <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymology> the
Greek <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language> αναρχία
<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B1%CF%81%CF%87%CE%AF%CE%B1>
("without archons <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon>" or "without
rulers").

PVR: Anarcho-syndicalists also call themselves "libertarian
socialists", you'll find that term also in the link you send us.

See also my reply to Bruce in the Forum:
http://www.world-wide-democracy.net/forum/read.php?5,511,513#msg-513

Mirek

Antonio Rossin wrote:

Dear Mirek (and list)

......

On this basis, I go to my Oxford Advanced Learners dictionary
and read under the items:
- Anarchy = 1. absence of government or control in society.
Lawlessness. 2. Disorder, confusion
- Anarchism = political theory that laws and government should
be abolished.
- Anarchist = person who believes in anarchism

........


In conclusion, it seems to me that the ten points in your quote
belong to genuine democracy, something else but anarchism.

That the anarchist may claim that those ten points belong to
"anarchism", it sounds somehow abusive, the dictionary tells.


Hoping this helps, best regards

antonio



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