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01376: Re: [WDDM] Repeted answer to Antonio

From: Antonio Rossin <rossin(at)tin.it>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:57:11 +0200
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Repeted answer to Antonio

Giorgio Menon ha scritto:
Antonio Rossin wrote:

(G)
The possible solutions you are talking about have to fight against
the ruling
culture that wants smart people own a fast, powerful, big car. As
long as
people keep receiving thousands of messages a day with this exact same
meaning, i think your proposal more bicycles and less cars will
never been
considered.

(a)
Of course.

(G)
That's what communication is for: trying to convince people. The
elites are
immensely more communicative that we are, and this is the real problem.
We don't have access to the media, they own them: they democratically
bought them. We could have done it, but we didn't. Our fault, no?

(a)
Yes, but you surely know the old Latin ditto:

"Errare umanum est; perseverare diabolicum"

(into English: "To err is human; to keep steadily on doing it is
diabolical")

I question whether the fault is recoverable, and -- affirmatively --
how.
This is why I am discussing democracy

(G)
Diabolicum, dear Antonio, is the selfreferential system that allows
the elites to
have access to the existing resources while denying such access to
anyone else.
I don't consider myself guilty of not owning a media.


(a)
Please, Giorgio, do not baffle me. It has you who wrote here above:
We could have done it, but we didn't. Our fault, no?

(a)
Which fault was you referring to? As it is this fault, which I'm
referring to. To the extent that the fault is ours, we are guilty.
Clearly, that of owning no media cannot be considered our fault:
but we shall have failed somewhere, and keep steadily on repeting
the same fault: don't you think so?



(G)
One must have stolen billion euros from common people's pockets
to own them or to have full access to them. I'm a simple worker and
i have never stolen a cent. Do you find diabolicum working all day
long to feed the family and pay the bills knowing that bankers live
a different life?
My fault may be recoverable, but i wonder if it deserves being recovered.
In all honestly i don't envy their lifes.
"Labor umanum est, sed etiam diabolicum"

Regards

Giorgio



(a)
Better we speak of recoverable faults -- if any -- that may be relevant
for recovering our (failed) democracy.

Otherwise we are crying only, no way out, and our speaking is useless.

Ciao,

antonio



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