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Gentlemen(?),
Somehow, I've again become the target of your
flaming... uh, email conversation. I already receive far too much useless
email to maintain effective correspondence.
Let me settle your battle of egos once
and for all. Each of you may legally claim to have been the one and only
father of modern democracy. Yes, your name will be revered throughout
all of history as the one person who single-handedly argued.... uh...
saved Us and our festering planet from the greedy grip of the
banksters and the bleedership.
Competition has no place in the formulation of
democracy. Democracy will be humanity's ultimate _expression_ of
cooperation. It's anti-competition. Therefore, it's quite impossible from
within Our historic competitive paradigm.
Even if you resolve all your differences, your
ultimate proposed system will not be the one used by "the people." If it's
actually democracy, THEY will make all those decisions FOR
THEMSELVES. All they really need is their own system and the courage to
use it. Perhaps, in a thousand years humanity will be mature enough to
utilize a system of democracy. In the meantime, they love it as it
is. They have problems about which they can cry on eachothers' shoulders
and someone else to blame all their problems on.
Now, will you be so kind as to remove my email
addresses from your email lists?
Thank you,
Alan D. Smith
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:59
PM
Subject: // Re: [WDDM] Re: Toward a WDDM
Charter
For we never seem to
do it right anyway...
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Hello,
Which is the
sell-by date? I’d like to know when exactly we will lose Bernard. For surely
we cannot all of a sudden all change our thinking into Bernard’s liking, can
we?
Kind regards,
Filia den
Hollander
op 14-01-2007 15:28 schreef
Bernard Clayson op bernard-clayson(at)shuartfarm.fsnet.co.uk:
Dear all,
Without getting in to
a point by point debate, Bruce does mention one important factor that I keep
mentioning - cultural differences.
Spelling is only one, although I would
add we are conversing in English<grin>
The main one is the attempt
to squeeze a quart in to a pint pot.
The North American approach of an
organisation, conversing in English, can only result in imposing it's
opinion on the rest of the world, the consequence will be similar to the US
imposing democracy on other countries.
The largest population count is
Chinese, what proportional representation do they have in this World
Direct Democracy Movement.
This group has 47 members, what experience do
they have, if one has to have an executive, one normally judges their
suitability for the job on experience, not untested opinions.
47 members
(from which countries), 180 countries x creeds/religions/cultures etc
.......?? it does not add up to a World-ddm.
The justification for an
organisation is North American, no strategy, it is bulldozer democracy, an
expensive website, Wiki, BBS, adds up to bureaucratic bull shit i.e. all
show and no substance.
One can do websites for free, I have several, so
why do you want an executive to administer the money (which you do not have)
to justify an organisation, again it does not add up.
The dialogue with
Antonio is more useful to activists, ways tried, lessons learned, etc, it
atleast shows ways that others can follow in engaging with the people, the
ones this organisations forgets about.
I have learned some important
lessons, which may, or may not be applicable elsewhere, the most important
one is not to presume, I tried doing it by the theorists 'book', dialogue
etc etc.
Met a brickwall, so I backed off and tried a different way,
similar result.
I then took account of the apathy factor, if people
believe that nothing will make any difference then it was up to me to
dispell that perception hence doing the last one first.
It takes time for people to accept a different way of
doing and thinking.
If one has the patience to wait, circumstances will
occur that will have them realising the logic of doing it another way,
hence, both a potential developer and the parish chairman realising a
referendum could save a lot of time, money and trouble.
The essence of
all this is - an organisation is of no use to me as an activist, to put it
bluntly, it would be as much use as a chocolate fire guard.
If there is
no change of thinking, I will use the exit door .... like I did with the
previous WDDM, and for the same reasons.
The clock is ticking on your
sell-by date.
Regards
Bernard
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