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00887: Re: [WDDM] Re: decisions at wider levels

From: "Bruce Eggum" <bruce.eggum(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 15:30:55 -0600
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Re: decisions at wider levels

Dear Richard,

I apologize for my "get back" poor attitude.

Your effort to educate people to your model is no different than WDDM trying to educate about Direct Democracy. To accomplish this, you have written a book and are selling it. This is good, where else would we gain knowledge?

However,  I took your remarks on WDDM as a put down to WDDM. Mainly because you seem to think any organization is hierarchical and thus "the people" have no input. This is all in how the org is set up. A common group of people can be organized (an organization) in that they have agreed how to vote, how to make group decisions. This could be the local card club. (should we go to a Steak House or  a Seafood restaurant?)

The other thing to note is that organizations have NO VOTE in political matters! They can holler all day long but they have no vote. That is why a REFERENDUM is so important because it is the peoples decision.

Even if your system were used in a town meeting, it is the REFERENDUM that is the peoples voice. Some kind of election or decision making structure is necessary to determine the decision. The people structure an election system to do this.

I will go out on a limb here and define democracy as many refer to it as Representative Democracy. Here you have others making choices. Direct Democracy, (actually Democracy by meaning) has the peoples direct input to  the government and control of it, and requires decisions to be made by Referendum. They may have appointed, elected, hired people but the people have final say.

Of course not all decisions need to be made by referendum. People are hired to pay bills, decide necessary purchases etc. However if the people making these decisions are "controlled" by the people and their decisions are "controlled " by the people, than democracy, direct democracy exists.

We need think tanks, bulletin boards, video, computers, newspapers, media and all of that to inform people. Yes, some of these will have differing views, but that is the way of discussion and allows informed peoples to choose.

And the WINNER is ------ the one decision which is approved by Referendum.

ATB Bruce
 

(good luck with your book)


On 1/7/07, Richard Moore wrote:

Bruce Eggum wrote:
You also said Richard, you would not participate in an organization. Than you send a document of how YOU want people to organize themselves (organization), and accept some specific websites view of things.

What I said is that I see no useful purpose in WDDM becoming an organization. But if others want to make it into one, they certainly can. I'm not proposing that people  organize themselves or believe anything, I'm simply offering people tools and suggesting how they might be used.





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Bruce Eggum
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