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From: Pras Anand <mrpras(at)googlemail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 11:53:03 -0000
Subject: Re: Re to Pras Anand: [WDDM] action towards true democracy

Thank you Filia for pointing that out.. You are right, I apologise - this was my own frustration coming through and definitely there was no offence intended. I wanted to try and pull the discussion towards actions not discussion of actions. Apologies if I have offended anyone.
Regards
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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:15 AM
Subject: Re to Pras Anand: [WDDM] action towards true democracy


Dear Mr/Ms Anand,

Iā€™m sorry to say, but I experience your messages as being condescending toward many people here who do marvellous and tenacious work for a cause which is of importance to all members of the WDDM forum. Inability to act ā€“ permanent or temporary ā€“ can have many causes and can come from many circumstances.


Kind regards,
Filia den Hollander




op 01-11-2006 12:48 schreef Pras Anand op mrpras(at)googlemail.com:

> Hi Daniel
>
> I like your approach as outlined on http://vpsystems.net/Nevada/
>
> Respect for having the guts to give power to to the people :) If you are
> able to manage that within the existing system, my hat goes off to you. I am
> not surprised in the slightest that people want this - it's what they've
> needed all along ;)
>
> There are very obvious and very subtle ways that the governing bodies have
> forgotten whose money it is that they are spending. They have forgotten what
> the words they are using mean - democracy - participation - involvement -
> equality - governance.
>
> Only those who give power to all are truly powerful.
>
> My work is on restructuring society in a box and creating spaces for people
> to do it on a regular basis. This involves technological infrastructures
> such as e-Voting and so called eDemocracy but also all manner of other
> societal tweaks in a box..
>
> At the moment I go to events and create mini "Social Computers" where we can
> create a simulator of society and get people to play it to explore ideas in
> a more informed way.
>
> http://e2000.org/pras/soco2005.pdf
> My last released (internal) document is from 2005, if you would like to talk
> about more specific or advanced projects, please let me know what you are
> focussed around. I have developed new democratic engines and new economic
> engines which I cannot release the info about.
>
> I thoroughly appreciate your approach and believe that any political body
> with the strength of character to do this will win in the end. So if you
> decide I could help you, I'd be willing to put the best ideas I can behind
> you as I believe in the people's ability to choose their own life.
>
> The people know what they want. But with the level of attention-marketing
> around politics, it's necessary, perhaps, to create a kind of mindwash where
> people can really explore the ideas they are voting on.
>
> Let me know if there's anything I can do to help you, or perhaps in future I
> can invite you to present your work at a conference or participate in the
> creation of social games for large events..
>
> I'm based in Brussels, Belgium but attend events all over the world these
> days. My career is still launching and perhaps that's why I have more energy
> for action than most of these guys, or maybe it's just that they have no
> ideas to change anything.
>
> Thanks for contacting me, and have a nice day
>
> Pras
>

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