Re: [WDDM] Re: [d-europe] Re: [WDDM] Parties and Politics

["Bruce Eggum" <bruce.eggum(at)gmail.com>]

We need to strongly advocate Direct Democracy.  What ever group we are in we can advocate. Political Parties are not that different than other groups. The name Party, tells us this group is "political".

As we advocate for DD, more and more will grast the idea and hopefully subscribe to it. A DD Party would than be one who has DD as a major statement in their ideologies. Of course, continual advocacy is necessary as people and ideas change. The world is in constant argument, so advocacy is essential.

Organization of people supporting DD so we all speak the same voice is essential. A DD Party could provide this organizational factor, but it will take strong DD voices to accomplish.

ATB Bruce Eggum

On 10/27/06, Franz Isemann, MD wrote:

Dear Antonio,
I fully agree. The awful thing with parlamentary DD-parties is: they become
very easily corrupted.
That also occured to the German Green Party, which was in the beginning
rather fond of DD, not though Joschka Fischer.
Franz

----- Original Message -----
From: Antonio Rossin
To: <democracy-europe(at)yahoogroups.com >
Cc: <democracy-europe(at)yahoogroups.com>; <wddm@world-wide-democracy.net>;
"Academy of Direct Democracy" < add(at)a.org.ua>; <cicdd(at)yahoogroups.com>;
"Franz Isemann, MD" <chiemgau(at)mehr-demokratie.de >
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: [d-europe] Re: [WDDM] Parties and Politics


> Dear Franz,
>
> glad with reading of you.
>
> I agree with you, but "a party for DD" is no "DD political party".
> Let's suppose, any political party can be "for", i.e. in favour of, DD:
> provided only it supports "Initiative & Referendum" directly from
> the people bottom-up.
>
> ciao,
>
> antonio
>
>
>
>
> At 17:49 +0200 26-10-2006, Franz Isemann, MD wrote:
>>Dear friends,
>>A party for DD is different from any other party, as long DD is really
>>practice within that party. Einsteins message cannot apply in this
>>context.
>>But a party for DD is a difficult task and needs permanent selfrenewal.
>>In other words it needs a strong nucleus of very competent and devoted
>>DD-freaks and also a very good internal constitution.
>>Franz Isemann
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Antonio Rossin < rossin(at)tin.it>
>>Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:23 AM
>>
>>At 0:51 +0300 26-10-2006, [Maria Ivanova] wrote:
>>>
>>>  Yes, I guess this is a good idea to create a DD political party.
>>>  As for us (Academy of Direct Democracy, Ukraine) we see no way to
>>>  create it for now but as the idea it sound good for us.
>>>  My best regards, Maria Ivanova
>>
>>Hi Maria Ivanova,
>>Albert Einstein is said he stated :
>>"We cannot solve the problems of a system by using the tools of the
>>same system that originated them".
>>I guess, all the ideas sound good for critical discussion -- yet I
>>wholeheartedly appreciate the clear fact that your Academy sees no
>>way to create a DD political party.
>>Cheers,
>>antonio
>>
>>
>>
>>
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