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00147: Re: Thanks to Filia

From: Filia den Hollander <fkdh(at)xs4all.nl>
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 00:12:24 +0200
Subject: Re: Thanks to Filia

Dear Ted and all,

You know what - Saturday (keep my fingers crossed ;-) I will send out all the material I have, for both the WDDM and the WDDF, including my unedited and bumpy-English texts on Amsterdams Initiatief. I had prepared quite detailed information about Amsterdams Initiatief, originally meant to be published by Newropeans and/or Europe 2020 (organizations/thinktanks on democracy issues by Franck Biancheri and Marie-Hélène Caillol). I never came around to actually finish them and deliver them and I still feel embarrassed about it. Ted, would you be willing to give me a hand - if I send the Amsterdams Initiatief texts to you on Friday, would you be willing to turn them in your best English ???

As for the Dutch situation... Yes, perhaps the Dutch situation is like a reasonably well functioning car and I am complaining about its bumper... (But no, things are really going downwards here. We "adapt" to the European standard because the EU adapting to our standard is considered "too expensive".)

One other thing – it would be useful if people from the outside could urge / invite Arjen Nijeboer and Co to open up to collaboration with me (things went wrong in the past because we had to grow psychologically into mature DD activists). Not in terms of “help” or “personal favors” but in terms of other DD community members who in general speak up that we should work together –or at least keep each other informed– and that this would benefit the DD community as a whole. (DD = direct democrcay)
Arjen Nijeboer <arjen.nijeboer(at)referendumplatform.nl>
Arjen Nijeboer <arjen(at)arjennijeboer.nl>
Tel. Mobile +31 (0)6 524 50 279
Tel. Agora Europe  +31 (0)20 638 05 58
Fax Agora Europe +31 (0)20 420 77 59
Address Agora Europe (Agora Europe is a Dutch government funded organization to investigate and assist participative projects. Its president is Eisse Kalk, member of Referendum Platform and its former president was Niesco Dubbelboer, also member of Referendum Platform and currently member of Parliament for the PvdA. Arjen works there and all “institution mail”, to Referendum Platform, Initiative & Referendum Institute Europe (Bruno Kaufmann’s club), and, European Referendum Campaign Netherlands, is sent to this address):
Entrepotdok 19-A
1018 AD Amsterdam
The Netherlands

I’m saying this, because Anthony Coughlan and Leopoldo Salgui reminded me/us today that we shouldn’t fall asleep regarding the referendums in France and in the Netherlands. We should take care that we prevent ourselves from the DD debacle as we had with the Spanish referendum. Meaning: we should start preparing ourselves for coordinated action.


Regards to all,
Filia




op 20-04-2005 16:12 schreef Ted Becker op becketl(at)auburn.edu:

> At last.  Some real info about what folks are DOING about DD somewhere.
> Thanks Filia for filling me in.  I was wondering what was going on with
> DD in The Netherlands...one of the most enlightened countries in the
> world (don't deny it).....
>
> First, thrill to the fact that you live in a [...]

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