Dear Filia and all,
I fully support Mirek´s standpoint. Your activity
is immenselky valuable and important. It looks like the official EU Constitution
might not be approved by the French referendum. If this happens, your project
will be even much more important and its chances of success should increase
dramatically.
Sincerely,
Jiri
----- Original Message -----
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 4:51
AM
Subject: Re: Is everybody sure that I am
a mature member Dear Filia, There were many problems with the old wddm, but
people were certainly encouraged to speak. Unfortunately they often did not,
which led to stand still's. Some important things were learned form that
experience I believe and those who now criticize it were usually not there.
Hopefully they will not repeat those errors.
Filia you can certainly
say things and will be supported for doing so, even if there is disagreement
in what your view is. That is normal as you know. Please, we need women's
views and I do hope you help us encourage other women to participate.
Please join, you can always say adios. Bruce,
On 4/16/05, M.
Kolar
wrote:
Hello
everybody! In the hindsight, it might have been really better to give
this group a new name, (as e.g. Franz Isemann suggested to the G. Sagi).
When I hear now that G. Kokkas still says that he is a spokesman for
WDDM. G. Sagi was saying me the same thing. I worked on the WDDM
renewal under this assumption that we will abandon all those old
unsolved, and apparently unsolvable petty disputes. Thus for me all the
old unofficial hierarchy was wiped out. Nobody registered any real objections against this approach here except perhaps for George
Sagi recently. So I think we should recognize the pioneering role the
old WDDM had 5 years ago, but try to avoid their later failures. Thus
we really start from a fresh beginning, and nobody should be afraid to speak their minds. That's the only way we can achieve something
new. That's at least my position ... Mirek
Filia den Hollander
writes:
> Is everybody sure that I am a mature member, i.e. that I
can speak my > opinion on this and other applications freely? There's
official hierarchy, > where everybody is equal, and can speak their
minds. And there's unofficial > hierarchy, which has to do with the
history of this forum, and then some > people might feel insulted if
a newcomer speaks freely and may disturb the > unofficial composition.
Or rather, they would make sure that this will not > happen. >
My impression is that this forum is working hard to become a fair forum. > Nevertheless, I want to be absolutely sure that I can speak
without, at some > point, be confronted with unofficial
hierarchy. > > > Kind regards, >
Filia
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