Re: Opening the WDDM Online Constituting Convention

[Filia den Hollander <fkdh(at)xs4all.nl>]

Thanks a lot, Leo.  ;-)

I follow things, but I keep quiet. One reason is that I wish to obeserve a
bit how you people are doing things. Another reason is that I'm very
occupied with the EVERYONE'S A CITIZEN BABY project.


Kind regards,
Filia


op 14-04-2005 20:28 schreef Leopoldo Salgui op lsalgui(at)demopunk.net:

> Dear Filia,
> you are welcome to the WDDM's Constituting Convention.
>
> Regards, Leo
>
> El Jueves, 14 de Abril de 2005 10:03, Filia den Hollander escribió:
> > Dear Mirek,
> >
> > Is Den Hollander missing in the below list of names?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Filia den Hollander
> >
> > op 14-04-2005 01:23 schreef Dave Harrison op cdharrison(at)uniserve.com:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I have no objections to anyone who is in favour of participatory
> > > democracy.
> > >
> > > Dave Harrison
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "WDDM webmaster" <wbm@world-wide-democracy.net>
> > > To: <wddm@world-wide-democracy.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:20 PM
> > > Subject: Opening the WDDM Online Constituting Convention
> > >
> > > > Welcome to the renewed WDDM!
> > > >     So far 16 applications for the WDDM membership have been received.
> > > > To see the details of all of them, please go to "Internal WDDMnet
> > > > Matters"
> > >
> > > area
> > >
> > > > near the bottom of the WDDM main page, its address is
> > > > http://www.world-wide-democracy.net/internal/
> > > >     To enter this area you will need to enter your user name and
> > > > password.
> > >
> > > User
> > >
> > > > name is your surname all in lowercase, and the initial password is the
> > > > same
> > >
> > > for
> > >
> > > > everybody:  wddm0
> > > >     Here is the exact list of the user names I have created (hope that
> > > > there are no types in them):
> > > >   sagi
> > > >   eggum
> > > >   clayson
> > > >   lim
> > > >   valach
> > > >   macphail
> > > >   gottlieb
> > > >   adeney
> > > >   kolar
> > > >   metanomski
> > > >   cutler
> > > >   ciogolea
> > > >   becker
> > > >   salgui
> > > >   ortega
> > > >   harrison
> > > >
> > > >     In the internal area you can change your password to whatever you
> > > > wish.
> > > >
> > > >     Please, review all the applications, and let others know if you have
> > > > any objections to any of them. (I personally do not have any.)
> > > >     Is 5 days enough to do this? Everybody should send back to the whole
> > > > mailing list (wddm@world-wide-democracy.net) a confirmation that they
> > > > received
> > > > this message, with all their comments on the applications and perhaps
> > > > any
> > >
> > > other
> > >
> > > > initial proposals and comments.
> > > >
> > > >     So far we have not received any official objections from the "old
> > > > WDDM" against this web-based community, that is just being born here, to
> > > > consider ourselves its successor. Therefore, I think that we can assume
> > > > we are its "legal" successor, and use the name WORLDWIDE DIRECT
> > > > DEMOCRACY MOVEMENT and
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > abbreviation WDDM.
> > > >     George Sagi and perhaps some others will most probably comment on
> > > > this. (Only a few of the original members submitted applications so
> > > > far.)
> > > >
> > > >     My personal hope: We will find some basic common DD platform that we
> > > > would
> > > > be able to show to the "outer world" while respecting the individual
> > > > members differences in opinion on various details. We will not insist on
> > > > a single
> > >
> > > model
> > >
> > > > of DD or a single way to achieve it. We must not forget that the World
> > > > is a very diverse place, and each little region of it may have their own
> > >
> > > preferences
> > >
> > > > and experiences.
> > > >
> > > >     We cannot be a model of the society at large, we are just a group of
> > >
> > > people
> > >
> > > > with a common goal or vision. So we do not have to accept absolutely
> > >
> > > everybody.
> > >
> > > > But I hope we will stay wide open, and will be excluding only real
> > > > mean-spirited Internet vandals.
> > > >
> > > >     I only volunteered to get this site/association of the ground, and
> > > > do not want to impose my preferences permanently on others. At any time,
> > > > you can select a different webmaster, and a different structure, and
> > > > move the site elsewhere (right now, I am hosting it together with my
> > > > personal site under the
> > > > same hosting account, which results in a discount for the WDDM hosting).
> > > >
> > > >     We may need one more mailing list moderator (to substitute for me if
> > > > I am not available). But that is not urgent, becase right now, the only
> > > > two roles
> > >
> > > of
> > >
> > > > our mailing list moderator is to process the new members applications
> > > > and to allow non-members to post to this mailing list
> > >
> > > (wddm@world-wide-democracy.net).
> > >
> > > > This list is supposed to be for the internal discussions only. You can
> > > > post messages without moderator's approval. All old messages may be
> > > > retrieved by
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > members only (using the get e-mail address - see the mailing list help
> > > > page). More urgent may be to select a WDDM "organizing moderator" (or
> > > > whatever
> > >
> > > you
> > >
> > > > want to call this position) to preside over the online discussions and
> > > > processing of proposals. I would prefer to stay with the technical (web
> > > > site) matters, and I do not have time to do everything anyway.
> > > >
> > > >     All members will have their personal areas on this web site, where
> > > > they
> > >
> > > can
> > >
> > > > post everything they wish for the outer world to see. All your
> > > > differences
> > >
> > > with
> > >
> > > > the future WDDM common platform can be discussed here. (Right now I am
> > > > still working on this area.)
> > > >
> > > >     We can have an arbitrary number of e-mail addresses of the type
> > > > user_name(at)world-wide-democracy.net . If you wish, you can get such
> > > > personal e-mail accounts, or we could use these addresses for various
> > > > polling and
> > >
> > > voting
> > >
> > > > functions.
> > > >
> > > >     Initially we are starting with the simple rules still posted on the
> > > > main WDDM page (I'll soon move them into the Archive). If you want to
> > > > change anything, please, make your proposals.
> > > >     There are already a few proposals from you in the Archive, with
> > > > links
> > >
> > > added
> > >
> > > > to your CV in the list of all initial member applications.
> > > >
> > > >     So I am looking forward to your ideas (to be addressed to the whole
> > > > list).
> > > > But, first please review all the applications, so that we can have an
> > > > mutually
> > > > approved initial membership.
> > > >
> > > >     All the best,
> > > > Miroslav