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02313: Response to Hamid Mohseni

From: Fred Gohlke <fredgohlke(at)verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:50:28 -0400
Subject: Response to Hamid Mohseni

Good Morning, Hamid

re: "We should not forget that it is the present corrupt
democracies and diktator societies which gives enough
economicall and politicall power to few individuals and in
this way makes it possible for them to manipulate and
decieve peoiple by propaganda and other means."

I agree with you, but I would point out that it is even more important
to understand how and why the democracies deteriorated to their present
state. If we don't understand how it happened, we can't prevent a
recurrence.

The people are, indeed, manipulated and deceived. The work of B. F.
Skinner and the behavioral scientists lets our leaders (political and
commercial) milk us like cows ... and the growth of mass communications
has made their efforts inescapable. These people are very good at what
they do, and their success is the strongest argument against 'direct
democracy'.

If we are to defeat deception and manipulation we must find people who
are superior to the deceivers and manipulators. We have such people
among us. What we lack is a means of finding them and raising them to
positions of leadership.


re: "In proper functioning democracies it would be more difficult
for few people to manipulate others for their own interest
because the power is shared between bigge number of
individuals."

Of course, but what ... exactly ... is a 'proper functioning democracy'.
How is it organized? How does it work?

It is easy to say the people must make all the decisions. It is not as
easy to say how they should do so. Will you allow public officials?
How will they be selected? What will be their role?

Failure to consider these questions is what causes the huge gap between
the theory of democracy and its actual practice. It is precisely
because we have failed to consider these questions and provide sensible
answers for them that 'politicians' have been able to take control of
our governments.

Fred Gohlke


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