From: | "Jim Powell" <autoinfo(at)acenet.co.za> |
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Date: | Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:47:47 +0200 |
Subject: | RE: [WDDM] Why I support World Government? |
Hi Lata, I see that the mechanisms will grow differently with each community. For me, the most important is to set up a credible and efficient voting system. We need to get the people used to making decisions and having an effect Regards Jim Powell From: Lata Gouveia
[latalondon(at)yahoo.co.uk] Sure, From: Esi <esi1mohseni2(at)hotmail.com> Hi Lata A game can not reflect the reality. A game does not affect your real life so you play most after your desires and curiousity about the results. In a real direct democratic system people are more careful when they vote and the consequences of that for their real life. Hamid From: Lata Gouveia Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:00 PM To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net Subject: Re: [WDDM] Why I support World Government? Hi Doug, From: Doug Everingham
<dnevrghm(at)powerup.com.au> I share most of te views expressed by Lata and Fred (excerpts below included) and (like Lata) wiah a programmer could follow up the ideas. Democracy is so often identified wth "1 voter. 1 vote" that we overlook existing qualifications (mature age, sound mind, balloting literacy, separate systems for choosing law makers, law interreters and implementers). There is a case for loading a vote b ya competence test based on political 'literacy' / certificate, or stages somewhat like the L (for learner) P (provisional) etc. to be held / displayed by licensed vehicle drivers in Australia. –Doug Everingham ==== Subject: Re: [WDDM] Why I support World Government? Date: 1 August 2009 2:24:40 AM To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net Reply-To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net Good Morning, Lata Regarding your message of Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:24:51 +0000 (GMT) re: "'You say that we don't need a government but instead just need to solve problems "such as how to feed the community, how to provide adequate water...' etc. Well, that's government ..." Well said!!! The balance of your argument is equally irrefutable. I chose this brief excerpt simply as an example. re: "... we have a problem with being 'represented' by somebody who does not know us, does not care, somebody who has their own agenda and career to worry about and a society which does not think we are smart enough or responsible enough to grasp the skills of government." Well said!!! And, again, merely a brief excerpt from an excellent observation. This is the crux of the matter. While I realize you said (on May 14th) ... "I don't usually respond to the correspondence I get from WDDM. Most of the time I find that its members cannot break away from the mindset of "vigorous" debate, which is perceived to be such an important feature of any democratic system. It goes around in circles." ... I wonder if you would be willing to discuss the specific problem you identified here? I read and understand the game you proposed (on May 14th), but: 1) at the moment it does not (so far as I know) exist, 2) participation would be limited to those with the equipment and ability to play the game (which is not universal), and 3) it is at least one level removed from human interaction. The little bit of your material I've been privileged to read tells me you are uncommonly thoughtful. Could we exchange some ideas on representative government, either privately or in this forum? Fred Gohlke |