[Prev] [Next]   [Index]   [Thread Index]

02193: RE: [WDDM] Democracy rating

From: "Jim Powell" <autoinfo(at)acenet.co.za>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:31:31 +0200
Subject: RE: [WDDM] Democracy rating

Hi Lata,

My responses follow ***

Socialism a democracy are actually separated by not much, other than terminology. *** The first need is to put the voters in charge through direct democracy


Once you have found a solution to minority rights issues, it becomes obvious that a truly democratic system would naturally spawn a socialist type society. *** In Switzerland the majority do not oppress the minorities. They have enough sense that to do so would generate unrest. A constitution protecting these rights with a requirement for 80% to change these clauses should protect the minorities


I must therefore re-iterate the notion that the representative system is a serious distortion of the democratic ideal. It creates a power cartel which distorts any notion of true political equality, in the same way corporate cartels ridicule any chance of a fair system of wealth distribution. *** Agreed


It is a human dysfunction though. We can try to fix politics and the economy but as long as human beings remain possessed by the notion of more and more... the outcome will be the same. *** As long as decision making is with the few this will not change


Regards


Jim Powell


--- On Tue, 2/6/09, Esi <esi1mohseni2(at)hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Esi <esi1mohseni2(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Democracy rating
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Date: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 6:55 PM

Hi


Probably direct democracy would gradually change the society to some kind of democratic socialism if it is not disturbed or stopped by powerfull undemocratic actors from outside or inside

the country who protects their undemocratic benefits and advantages against threat from democratic systems.



From: Jim Powell

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:31 AM

To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net

Subject: RE: [WDDM] Democracy rating


Hi Bruce,


My response/counter questions follows ***


Is democracy possible with capitalism? *** Is Switzerland democratic?
Can socialism be democratic? *** Seems to be the best form for the benefit of the community
What do we need to do? *** Community organisations to be set up along DD principles. Set up DD organisations in each area and have members join established political parties to change from within the current political system


http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/treder20090601/ *** Interesting site

Regards

Jim Powell


On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:09 AM, <Jim Powell> wrote:

Hi Parrhesia,

Thanks for the email.

It is a good description to say that Democracy is a slippery word.

Throughout the world democracy can best be described as a 5 year
dictatorship where the term of office is 5 years.

Switzerland has Direct Democracy at all levels of government. Each of the
Cantons and municipalities have differing levels of Direct Democracy. Bottom
of the list for level of democracy would be a dictatorship

Has anyone got a system to assess level of democracy? Is there an
organisation that carries this out?

Regards

Jim Powell






-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Hammer
Sent: 02 Jun 2009 02:48 AM
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net

Subject: RE: [WDDM] Democracy rating

What do you mean by "Level of democracy"? What would a 100% democracy be?
Democracy is a slippery word.

Parrhesia

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Powell
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 4:01 AM
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Subject: [WDDM] Democracy rating

Hi All,

Is there a method where the level of democracy in a country can be measured
or is there an organisation that does this?

Is there a table where countries are ranked? I would expect that Switzerland
would be close to the top and Mynamar (Burma) would be close to the bottom.

Regards

Jim Powell


[Prev] [Next]   [Index]   [Thread Index]