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From: "esi1mohseni2" <esi1mohseni2(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:51:50 +0200
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [WDDM] I spit in your face

I agree with you in much of what you wrote. We are livinig in a world which does not support harmony and peace. Lion must kill and eat other animals to survive. Human must also eat living
creatures like animals and plants to survive. you can read in history and see in reports what a horrible acts humanity has done before and are doing now. The world is full of unjustice and
egoistic acts. It is not easy to change this cruel world to a peaceful and just world, but we should try as much as possible. This can not be done by hate and unnecessary violence but by
knowledge and right actions. Arabs which are victims now, for not so long time ago attacked and occupied many countries and forced them to accept Islam by cruel methods. They talked
about brotherhood in Islam but destroyed universities, libraries and cultural centers in Persia and used persians as slaves. Arabs attack changed Persia after a short time from civilized, cultural
and science center of the world to ruins and a horrible place to live as slaves.
We should try to learn of this experiences and not repeat them again and again. Jews who has suffered of unjustice and nacizm are repeating similar actions against palestinians and Arabs.
Of course we can not blame all Jews for that because I know a lot of them don´t like it and not support these actions.
Many evidences shows that Israel and Jews are not alone but abused of west as a military base to control and colonize middleeast to take advantages of their natural resources. Holocaust
experience shows that west does not support Israel and Jews because they love them but because they need and abuse them for their own advantages.
One way to change this world to the better is by applying direct democracy in all countries and world. Political decisions must be taken by people and not some corrupt politicers.
Communication between people in different countries and groups must be evolved by new technics. New knowledges and technics must be accessable by most of people. If necessary the
number of people must be limited related to resources on earth. All people must help to plan and carry out projects and activities to achieve these ideas. General opinions and talks does not
change so much.

Regards
Hamid

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 9:38 AM
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [WDDM] I spit in your face

Hamil,

Enjoyed your recent e-mail.

Why the hate you ask, Hamid. Governments foster and promote hate by engendering the nationalistic consciousness. The middle-class can be better managed by governments use of national ideological propaganda to maintain control and supposed protection of civilian populations.

In protective custody the middle-class is asked to wear a collar of ignorance by which a certain mind-set accrues through the projection of lies, dis/misinformation, the use of mindless distractions IE. sports, sensationalism and sedatives.

Hate aside, humans are ony human according to their philosophy in life. Without human philosophy to life people are actually acting like the animals. It is understandable to forgive the actions of animals, where their behavior seems disagreeable to us, for the beast is forced only allowed to act according to their mode of ignorance in nature.

Animal behavior such as an over developed lust for sex life, eating, defending(quarreling)and slothful rest is, while obseved in man, to be always unpalpable and usually leads to revolting developments.

You said, 'fighting the threat rather than the actor'. Yes. I agree with all you have said, Hamid. The 'Hate' question may too be answered in knowing that 'hate' is an inevitable emotion and action in human intercourse.. Helpful is the sharing of a similar philosophy which can broaden the mind through understanding and use of 'forgiveness', in this instance. In this way, the hate/quarrel mood should be easily modified by the conscious act of mutual forgiveness. Man is the biological equivalent of the animal. We are the same and are separately defined only by their philosophy in life.

Note: Approx. five millions Jews live in Israel and five million Jews live in America. During the Bush regime three of the four topmost civilian post in Federal government where held by Jews, most with dual citizenship. Obama's chief advisor is a Jew of dual citizenship. Couple that with the wealthy endorsement of AIPAC lobbing arm of the Israeli government influencing Washington,DC, business and I would say that the Jews have been more than compensated in land, holdings and strategic military might.

This week, Obama, insured the delivery of billions of U.S. Tax dollars to fund the Israeli/Zionist agendas. In this manner I feel the Jews are too being more than compensated.

Regards,

Ron White

--- On Thu, 4/16/09, esi1mohseni2 <esi1mohseni2(at)hotmail.com> wrote:


From: esi1mohseni2 <esi1mohseni2(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [WDDM] I spit in your face
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 2:53 AM

Genetic, language origin and some other sciences point to the fact that all human individuals are originated from
some few people on earth. In other words all human individuals are relative to each other. By time people have
adopted themseleve to local climate and circumestances which has resulted in small differences in colour or shape.
We find similar changes in animals like bear which are white in cold places or black or brown in warmer places.
The question is why do people hate each other despite the fact that we are similar geneticaly and relatives.
I can be wrong but I think the main reasons are peoples lack of knowledge, anxiety for death and struggle to
survive. Our anxiety motivates and forces us whole the time to find out what is hindering us to progress and
survive. Everything we recognize or categorize as a hinderance for us we define as enemy wich must
be defeated and fighted back or hated. It does not matter if subjects we find as threat or hinderance are dead
things, rules, our sisters or brothers.
It would be reasonable from survivance aspect to behave so if we had all necessary knowledge to find right hindrances and threats and choosed right ways to fight them. Unfortunately many times we don´t have necessary
knowledge and if we have of different reasons we are not aware of them or trust them.

To handle this problem I try not to recognize subjects as hindrance and enemies but actions and behaviours which
hinders or threat me and others in my or their strugle to survive and progress. I try to fight actions and behaviours
which threat my existance but not the actor. If someone do something against me I fight his action but not the person who is doing it despite of he or she is jewish, black, white, etc...

I don´t like what Nazist did against Jews and I don´t hate Jews but I don´t like neither what Israel and some jews
are doing against palestinians and other Arabs. I don´t understand why should Arabs pay for what nazists did against jews. Wouldn´t it be more fair if Germany or USA compensate jews for what nazist did by giving a part of
their own countries to Jews?

Suggests
Hamid

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From: Jim Powell
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:56 AM
To: <wddm@world-wide-democracy.net>
Subject: RE: Fw: Re: [WDDM] I spit in your face

> Get back to Direct Democracy
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