Re: [WDDM] Regarding the social network site

[ROY DAINE <rdaine(at)btinternet.com>]

Thanks Georges,

That seems to answer the most often stated argument aginst DD.

We can assume I think, if this holds true for decades of kibbutzism, it would hold true for peoples anywhere.

After all politicians never seem to get bored with politics.

Roy

Georges Metanomski <zgmet(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- ROY DAINE <RDAINE(at)BTINTERNET.COM> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Thanks to those who provided suitable research
> > links.
> >
> > Now some questions on Kibbutzism, which I know
> > virtually nothing about.
> >
> > Let's assume for the purpose of these questions
> > that we accept Georges assertion that based upon the
> > three rules kibbutzism equates to
>  functioning DD.
> >
> > One of the arguments against DD, is that people
> > would not be bothered to participate in the ongoing
> > process and we thus need to elect representatives to
> > carry on the business of governance.
> >
> > I'm assuming that, regardless of the present state
> > of any kibbutz, at one time, the members of all of
> > them would have been keen participants.
> >
> > Is this an ongoing thing, in general, or in any
> > particular kibbutz.
> >
> > Has the day-to-day participation gradually
> > declined to a point where kibbutzes in general, are
> > 'led', or do they still function as originally
> > intended, with full participation.
> >
> > I ask these questions, not to suggest that
> > kibbutzism is necessarily a way forward but to
> > answer the accusations that most people cannot or
> > will not , when given the opportunity, take part in
> > their own
>  governance.
> >
> > Roy
> ================
> G:
> My direct experience of years 1970 glaringly confirms
> the full, keen motivation and participation in
> kibbutzim governance. That took a lot of "ongoing",
> as kibbutzim started in the 19th century.
>
> The letters I keep getting from my friends talk
> about a recent renaissance of kibbutzim, functioning
> innerly as always and seen from outside as life
> quality paradise and as a foundation of sincerity
> in face of corrupted politicians and of defense
> against the most dangerous existential danger Israel
> ever faced.
>
> If anything, the people show in kibbutzim an
> exaggerated motivation to argue about their destiny
> and to fight the so called "jewish wars".
>
> Georges.
> ==============



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