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01809: Re: [WDDM] Regarding the social network site

From: Georges Metanomski <zgmet(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 05:16:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Regarding the social network site

--- ROY DAINE <rdaine(at)btinternet.com> wrote:


Hi All,

Thanks to those who provided suitable research
links.

Now some questions on Kibbutzism, which I know
virtually nothing about.

Let's assume for the purpose of these questions
that we accept Georges assertion that based upon the
three rules kibbutzism equates to functioning DD.

One of the arguments against DD, is that people
would not be bothered to participate in the ongoing
process and we thus need to elect representatives to
carry on the business of governance.

I'm assuming that, regardless of the present state
of any kibbutz, at one time, the members of all of
them would have been keen participants.

Is this an ongoing thing, in general, or in any
particular kibbutz.

Has the day-to-day participation gradually
declined to a point where kibbutzes in general, are
'led', or do they still function as originally
intended, with full participation.

I ask these questions, not to suggest that
kibbutzism is necessarily a way forward but to
answer the accusations that most people cannot or
will not , when given the opportunity, take part in
their own governance.

Roy
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G:
My direct experience of years 1970 glaringly confirms
the full, keen motivation and participation in
kibbutzim governance. That took a lot of "ongoing",
as kibbutzim started in the 19th century.

The letters I keep getting from my friends talk
about a recent renaissance of kibbutzim, functioning
innerly as always and seen from outside as life
quality paradise and as a foundation of sincerity
in face of corrupted politicians and of defense
against the most dangerous existential danger Israel
ever faced.

If anything, the people show in kibbutzim an
exaggerated motivation to argue about their destiny
and to fight the so called "jewish wars".

Georges.
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