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01791: Re: [WDDM] Regarding the social network site

From: Giorgio Menon <giorgio.menon(at)pd.infn.it>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:41:03 +0200
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Regarding the social network site

Georges Metanomski wrote:


Indeed, world will probably not become a Kibbutz,
(clear and strict synonym of DD) because it strongly
moves in the opposite direction of tyranny, dogmatism,
fanatism and stupidity.
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Let's see: Kibbutzim have been a viable method to colonize the
Palestine. In Oct 1946 eleven Kibutzim were founded the same night on
the Negev desert. You can read that Shoval, for instance, was founded
in that night by "veterans of Hashomer Hatzair" which is a zionist
movement.
http://www.jafi.org.il/education/twin/p2000/geo.html

Now you will have hard times trying to convince me that zionists who
founded that colony "moved in the opposite direction of tyranny,
dogmatism, fanatism and stupidity".

The overall context must be then correctly evaluated. Kibbutzim have had
a fundamental role in zionism's history, experts say. Kibbutzim's
activities are not profitable, and they constantly need funds from
Israel and zionist organizations. And you have to bring evidences that
the Israeli society is somewhat more "democratic" thanks to kibbutzim.
If you have doubts ask a Palestinian of Gaza. As you have written once,
kibbutzim give the best jetfighter pilots to Israel. Those same pilots
have destroyed many Lebanese infrastructures in 2006 Lebanon-Israel war,
when they also killed 1000 civilians.

If Kibbutzim still exist, it's NOT because they offer DD, rather because
they don't threaten Israeli teocracy.

A similar speech could be said about Switzerland. It's been the caveau
of European corporations (nazi included) and Swiss people can do
whatever they like as long as they don't threaten the corporations'
privileges. We might even find that Luxembourg is the country with the
highest GDP pro capita in the world, and this happens because this small
state attracts foreign investors who can move their capitals to offshore
heavens thanks to the bank secrecy.

Giorgio



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