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01782: RE: [WDDM] Regarding the social network site

From: ROY DAINE <rdaine(at)btinternet.com>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 22:40:15 +0100 (BST)
Subject: RE: [WDDM] Regarding the social network site

Well Georges,

I hold my hands up. I cannot compete with your wordsmithery. Furthermore your post is compelling. I accept the argument that kibbutzism is the only DD.

You said - 'One may, of course, create an infinity of axiomatic
models and call them "DD", postulating for instance
that "DD" is founded on flamenco dancing.'

Absolutely. It could be said that the blahblahblahs were our attempts at so doing.

While investigating the word 'axiom' though, I happened upon the following - 'A stipulative definition of a term carries a meaning which a speaker wants it to convey for the purpose of his or her discourse. Thus, the term may be new, or a stipulative definition may prescribe a new meaning to a term which is already in use.'

In which case, the blahblahblahs could be classed as 'stipulative definitions'.

Now, as I understand it, axioms are falsifiable but stipulative definitions are not.

Would I be correct , by the way, in surmising that you are or have been, a student of metaphysics?

Regards

Roy

Georges Metanomski <zgmet(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

--- ROY DAINE <RDAINE(at)BTINTERNET.COM> wrote:

> When you make a claim, the onus is upon you to
> prove your point, not for anyone else to disprove
> it.
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G:
Wrong. Rational theories and models repose in
falsifiability. They are never proved, but at best
not (yet) falsified. And I wrongly thought that
we both take it as granted that rational models
are by definition axiomatic, where axioms should
not be confused with definitions.

Now, DD is IMO a model of a social structure founded
on the following "K" axiom:

Each member has equal opportunity and weight to:
-propose a rule,
-to investigate and understand all proposals,
-to argue for or against any proposal,
-to influence the resolution.

This axiom may be easily falsified for all past and
present social systems with exception of Kibbutzim,
where it is not proved, but so far not falsified.

One may, of course, create an infinity of axiomatic
models and call them "DD", postulating for instance
that "DD" is founded on flamenco dancing.

Yet, some people may prefer the above "K" axiom
and investigate it, i.e. endeavor to falsify it
for given practical cases.

Georges.
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