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From: Doug Everingham <dnevrghm(at)powerup.com.au>
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:48:01 +1000
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Getting the whole picture about DD

There are guilty Swiss and innocent Germans in regard to war crimes.
Perhaps more to the point, there are crimes on both sides in most wars.
Many major US and K firms profited from dealings with 'the enemy' via
'neutral' countries and via their international corporate affiliates..
WDDM needs supporters of all nationalities and democratic features of
most national constitutions.
– Doug Everingham
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From: Giorgio Menon <giorgio.menon(at)pd.infn.it>
Date: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:26:39 PM Australia/Brisbane
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Getting the whole picture about DD

Annette and Martin wrote:

The world has a Shadow Government and it's called the Committee of 300.
The Committee of 300 Ultimate Goal:

Is to have the Undisputed Control of the wealth, natural resources and
people power of the entire world


Right. But do you have an idea about how they've managed (and still are
managing) to do it?

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As someone has already pointed out it's spelled Swiss, not Swish (or
Swatch).

Swiss "neutrality"?
In Switzerland, the people who lived through the war wanted to believe
that it was their army and fortifications that kept the Nazis out.
Historical research and documents clearly show that if the Nazis wanted
to invade Switzerland, it would have been quick and relatively easy.
The reason Germany spared its tiny neighbor to the south was because
Switzerland proved much more useful as an independent state than as a
satellite. The Swiss made many useful weapon components (aluminium for
the Luftwaffe, spark plugs for jeeps taken from the Russians, timing
devices for bombs, among other things), and thus their factories were
not bombed every night. The Swiss National bank bought gold from the
Reichsbank, the Reichsbank was given Swiss francs in exchange, and used
them to buy cobalt, nickel and tungsten from the other “neutral”
countries. The Turks, Portuguese, Spanish and Swedish, who were all
under heavy pressure from the Allies not to accept direct gold payment
from the Reichsbank, then exchanged the Swiss francs for gold. The
problem was that the German gold came from the Belgian National bank
reserves (not from concentration camps as some sensationalists would
have it) and the neutrals knew it.
http://switzerland.isyours.com/e/swiss-business-guide/wwii.html

The Bergier Commission, a panel of historians,concluded that
Switzerland "declined to help people in mortal danger." Many of those
turned away at the border were handed over directly to the Nazis,
making Switzerland an accomplice in the Holocaust, the panel said.

A report also issued in December by another panel, known as the Volcker
Commission, identified nearly 54,000 dormant accounts in Swiss banks
that may have belonged to victims of the Nazis.

A survey, conducted for the American Jewish Committee and recently
released, found that 45 percent of the 1,210 Swiss interviewed in
January agreed with the statement: "Switzerland has nothing to
apologize about for its behavior toward Jews during World War II."
Thirty-nine percent disagreed, and 16 percent didn't know.
http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/
13539/edition_id/262/format/html/displaystory.html

One of the world's biggest banks, UBS of Switzerland, has admitted for
the first time that it exploited Nazi slave labourers during World War
II.

The bank has confirmed it owned a cement factory where SS officers
forced at least 400 prisoners from the nearby Auschwitz concentration
camp to work.
The admission that it exploited slave labourers from Auschwitz opens a
new chapter in the Swiss bank's controversial wartime past.

Then we have the Swiss-Southamerica-Nazi connection.


On June 6, 1947, Argentina's first lady Eva Peron left for a
glittering tour of Europe.
According to records now emerging from Swiss archives and
the investigations of Nazi hunters, an unpublicized side of
Evita's world tour was coordinating the network for helping Nazis
relocate in Argentina.
This new evidence of Evita's cozy ties with prominent Nazis
corroborates the long-held suspicion that she and her husband,
Gen. Juan Peron, laid the groundwork for a bloody resurgence of
fascism across Latin America in the 1970s and '80s.
Besides blemishing the Evita legend, the evidence threatens
to inflict more damage on Switzerland's image for plucky
neutrality. The international banking center is still staggering
from disclosures about its wartime collaboration with Adolf
Hitler and Swiss profiteering off his Jewish victims.
The archival records indicate that Switzerland's assistance

to Hitler's henchmen didn't stop with the collapse of the Third

Reich.
And the old Swiss-Argentine-Nazi connection reaches to the
present in another way. Spanish "superjudge" Baltasar Garzon is
seeking to open other Swiss records on bank accounts controlled
by Argentine military officers who led the so-called "Dirty War"
that killed and "disappeared" tens of thousands of Argentines
between 1976-83.
During World War II, Gen. Peron -- a populist military
leader -- made no secret of his sympathies for Mussolini's Italy
and Hitler's Germany.
Even as the Third Reich crumbled in the spring of 1945,
Peron remained a pro-fascist stalwart, making available more than
1,000 blank passports for Nazi collaborators fleeing Europe.

While in Spain, Evita reportedly met secretly with Nazis who
were part of the entourage of Otto Skorzeny, the dashing Austrian
commando leader known as Scarface because of a dueling scar
across his left cheek.
Though under Allied detention in 1947, Skorzeny already was
the purported leader of the clandestine organization, Die Spinne
or The Spider, which used millions of dollars looted from the
Reichsbank to smuggle Nazis from Europe to Argentina.
After escaping in 1948, Skorzeny set up the legendary ODESSA
organization which tapped into other hidden Nazi funds to help
ex-SS men rebuild their lives -- and the fascist movement --- in
South America.

http://www.ainfos.ca/99/jan/ainfos00097.html

the Swiss were much more intimate with the Nazis than they had admitted
before. They not only engaged in money laundering for the Nazis, they
also supplied wartime materiel; yet when the war was over, the Swiss
were treated like innocent victims. It turns out that the reason the
Nazis did not invade Switzerland was not because the Swiss would fight
to the last man, as the conventional wisdom went, but was instead
because Hitler needed the Gnomes of Zurich for their talents as
moneychangers. Ironically, they even provided the Fuhrer with U.S.
dollars, in order to facilitate the fascist leader's military demands.

The Harper Collins book /*"Nazi Gold"*/ by Tom Bower, subtitled, "The
Full Story of the Fifty-Year Swiss-Nazi Conspiracy to Steal Billions
from Europe's Jews and Holocaust Survivors" is a powerful indictment.
When the War began, Germany had $100 million in gold, at the end of the
War, Germany had sold about $900 million in gold.

/Called "a state within a state," Swiss banks have long functioned as
Switzerland's shadow government. And while the overriding motives of
the Swiss bankers to collaborate with the Nazis were mercenary --
simple greed -- it was anti-Semitism, pervasive among the Swiss elite,
that was the amoral glue that held it together.
/

/Even after warnings from the Allies to cease their dealings with the
Axis, the Swiss persisted. After the war, the Swiss were equally
scornful, determined to hold onto their ill-gotten gains by any means.
They swindled the Allies, repaying only $58 million worth of gold when
in fact they had bought roughly $400 million (worth $4 billion today)
of gold from the Nazis, then refused any assistance to survivors of the
Holocaust.

http://www.worldfreeinternet.net/news/nws39.htm

/Enough for today, methinks.
Let's see what "neutral" Swiss has meant then:
1-Robbing $4bn to Jews
2-Refusal to let Jews in, sentencing them to sure death.
3-Offering safe transactions to nazis, who could buy anything they
needed via Swiss Francs
3-Offering safe rescue to nazis, and safe trip to southamerica
4-Thank to point 3 desaparecidos have been the rule in Southamerica
until recent days
5-A Swiss bank has actively exploited people in Auschwitz
6-Swiss people doesn't acknowledge this all, but minimally.

I agree that Swiss democracy has several good points. Yet i'm afraid
it's not a replicable system, given the particular history of that land
of banks. Maybe we could try to understand if the Cayman islands (king
of offshore banking) offer similar features.
Why don't we try to investigate this, to see if there's a link between
wealth and improved democracy? It may reveal interesting aspects....

Regards

Giorgio






----- Original Message ----- From: "Giorgio Menon"
<giorgio.menon(at)pd.infn.it>
To: <wddm@world-wide-democracy.net>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Getting the whole picture about DD


*Charles Bukowski quotes*
<http://thinkexist.com/quotes/charles_bukowski/>


“The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a
democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you
don't have to waste your time voting.”


Regards
Giorgio



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