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01654: Re: [WDDM] Getting the whole picture about DD

From: DAVID FRANK <davidafrank1948(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:13:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [WDDM] Getting the whole picture about DD

Did you have a chance to look at onevoicenow.org and check out their solution page??Sure would appreciate your opinion..Thanks,,David Frank

Antonio Rossin <rossin(at)tin.it> wrote:
Georges,

The problem of (the lack of) Democracy is not that of
communicating valuable stuff -- such as yours below --
to people.

Instead, it is about how to communicate any stuff --
encompassing yours -- to people, so to enable them
to deal with.

In other words, that's not a problem of communicating.
That's a problem of meta-communicating.

If you were unable to understand the difference, as you
seem as, you are a damage to Democracy, because you
are leading towards (scientific) dictatorship.


Regards,

antonio





Georges Metanomski ha scritto:
--- Vijayaraghavan Padmanabhan
<vijayaraghavan.p(at)rediffmail.com> wrote:

I&R is focussed on
the process that would enable True Democracy but it
does not tell us how to get there.
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G:
For once a reasonable statement. It's not for us to
discusse, let alone to dictate which forms should take
the DD governance. Once established, it will be for
the
Forum to determine them. All we can do is to see how
to
get there. Years ago I proposed a way that I called
"Shadow Parliament". I cannot be judge and party, so
it should be discussed by other people.

It's available in

http://findgeorges.com/ROOT/WRITINGS/POLITICS/shadow_eng.html

I quote here it's conclusion:

QUOTE
Three issues seem essential for starting to move
towards the DD:

1.Getting a Shadow Parliament within the Particracy.

2.Establish a logistic 3 Functions support.

3.Propound Sincerity, which appears to be the
critical condition of DD. A very limited experience
seems to point to "self applicable attitude".
An example:
A small forum discussed pollution and found out
rightly
or wrongly that the worst pollution source is the
factory breeding of animals. Besides pollution it
involves unacceptable suffering of animals and mental
corruption of attendants who become potential sadistic
Auschwitz guards. The group condemned eating meat. Not
as a theoretical principle, but as a self applying
decision and all members stopped eating meat.
Another very limited and positive experience consisted

in stages in Kibbutzim, confronting fellows with the
sincerity of the unique ever realized genuine DD.
UNQUOTE
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