Re: [WDDM] Repeted answer to Antonio

["Giorgio Menon" <giorgio.menon(at)pd.infn.it>]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:28:57 +0200, Antonio Rossin wrote

> In most western countries, the so-called "democratic
> countries", the inhabitants do not want to implement
> Democracy  - that encompasses people's direct control
> over both policies and politicians".  Really  as well as
> paradoxically, people like themselves to be controlled
> by political propaganda and PR managed by the money
> holder elites.
>
> You say: "people are deceived by the elites."  I argue:
> "people want to deceive themselves by themselves,
> just because they own the power of control -- if only
> they wanted to wield it directly and responsibly.
> But their democratic wish does not go to wield it,
> because wielding it is too much labour they dislike".

This is the core of the issue. I don't think i'm wrong but i'm sure you are
not wrong either. There's a study that i read a while ago saying that for
populations over few thousand units "democracy" becomes a must, meaning they
can't menage to rule their own lives but need an "external power". Tribal
realities vs modern towns. Guess where current tendency goes? In China the
pace of urbanization is impressive (half of the world building facilities are
placed in China...). Do Chinese people have a chance? In a sense yes, but they
should take a firm stand against the so-called Development, Progress,
Modernity etc...Who dares so much?
> > That's why i say that Democracy is perfectly compatible
> > with fundamentalism, being ruled by numbers as it is.
> > Ruled by numbers, not by people, please notice.
> This is your thesis.  I wholeheartedly disagree.
>
> My antithesis is, "Fundamentalism is perfectly compatible
> with the people's democratic renounce of democracy.

Please consider that in a world ruled by money, fundamentalisms have control
over the existing processes. I'm not saying that people accepting it are
irresponsible, rather that the fight is definately unbalanced amd biased.

Ciao

Giorgio