From: | Georges Metanomski <zgmet(at)yahoo.com> |
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Date: | Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:58:54 -0700 (PDT) |
Subject: | Re: [WDDM] Repeted answer to Antonio |
The issue is government.==================================================
Georges Shadow Government, a different name but same=================================================
process.
Snapshot I&R What is snapshot I&R?=================================================
Snapshot I&R usually confused with DD would be
in reality the most dangerous dodging maneuver
of Particracy against the true DD.
Bruce shakes his head ???????????????????? huh?===================================================
http://groups.google.it/group/epistemology/msg/bce11ad48a47c984?hl=it&
Einstein's assertion:
"A new manner of thinking is essential if humankind
is to survive."
A clear call for Enlightenment understood as
people's
emergence from obscurantism imposed dogmatically by
established governance, media, education and
religions.
But than Georges says:
That's why we endeavor to explicate Relativistic
Dialectic in ontological and epistemological terms
as a modest contribution to the Second Enlightenment
and to its socio-political outcome, the Direct
Democracy.
Bruce states: So, you add all the dogmatic academic
crap and we are back to
zero!
Initiative and BINDING Referendum preceded by
discussion, evaluation, is
certainly not a "snapshot". Certainly many things go
into the choices people
make, much of which is uncontrollable. Media will
always have an impact.
People must trust less and examine closer. Lessons,
some are hard. But
lessons do come. The I&Br Process = Idea,
discussion, initiative presented,
more discussion, perhaps amended, initiative
accepted (or rejected),
presented for referendum (more discussion) Binding
Referendum pass or fail.
I&BR could be the tool for people to install a
government they could
control. Control is where the power is.
A massive infrastructure is needed to administrate
a large country. If
these people running government were given only
administrative power, they
would have to do what the people commanded. Elected
administrators,
recallable at any time.
Shadow government could than be brought in totally.
It would be the process
of the people deciding what commands to give the
administrators.
Now, we have many good software programs which could
help the people in
their deliberations. This of course must be done
totally outside of the
government infrastructure.
This is what WDDM began to do, than was stopped by
to many wanting to do it
their way rather than coming to a WDDM Community
decision. That is why WDDM
has been trying to develop it's own infrastructure,
so it could proceed on
it's goal to provide information on Initiative and
Referendum which the
people could use to take over control of their own
community government.
Until people see they really can have control and
what steps they must take
to gain control, they will do nothing. That is the
clinker, nobody can do it
for the people, the people must do it themselves.
But they must understand
what must be done and have some belief the process
will work. Thus a massive
sales /education process is necessary using video,
recordings, phone
messages, websites, email, all of it. Not telling
anyone what to do, but
that they CAN!
This email list gossiping gets nowhere. Let us take
this to WDDM Forum and
proceed. Just go to WDDM.org and sign in. If you
need help with passwords
the help is there or email Mirek.
Georges you will love it. It is a FORUM!
Regards, Bruce
On 7/19/07, Antonio Rossin <rossin(at)tin.it> wrote:
violence
Giorgio Menon ha scritto:
Antonio Rossin wrote:
Well, I remember very well your insulting
"prattle,in rejecting any antithesis to your theses as
pleasantries.meaningless asininity, bullshit" and alike
can let me
Antonio,
you are a neurologist and no one better than you
repeatedlyunderstand what's happening in Georges' mind. I
disagreeread his insults and contempt toward anyone who
massages.with his ideas. Then i read this:
"1.I don't write TO PEOPLE, but ABOUT their
does not writeI'm probably the only person on this list who
me wheread personam. If it happened once or twice, show
and I appologize in advance."
=== message truncated ===experienceGiorgio,
What do you think?
Regards
Giorgio
In my humble opinion -- but also in my past
as a psychiatry practitioner -- it is a matter ofone's brain
hemispheres working together to process somethinking
line. The question is, re to a giveninput-idea-argument,
do the two brain hemispheres co-operate togetherin