Re: Seeing the light

[Georges Metanomski <zgmet(at)wanadoo.fr>]

Giorgio Menon wrote:
> Georges Metanomski wrote:
>
> > Intelligent discussion in only possible within a structure
> > possibly differing in inferences, but agreeing on facts,
> > which are the first contextual background.
> >
> > It's impossible here, as long as you confuse facts with
> > ideas (or inferences). I clearly presented Jihad as a
> > FACTUAL CONTEXT which I lived and witnessed directly
> > and you reject it as an IDEA.
> Hi Georges,
> i cannot deny that YOU are in war. What i deny is that I am in war.
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Translated to clear language: Jihad is limited to Israel
which may be exterminated to the last person without you
caring a damn. Like your Niemeyer said, sit there happily
when they come for me. Don't worry, they'll come for you
sooner than you think.
As for me, I learned to shoot at them when they come
without waiting for you to speak for me. I could wait long.
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To
> me war is still an idea at this stage, not a current fact. I see no
> weapons, hear no bullets. Maybe you see and hear them. I cannot say much
> more than this.  About Madrid and London blasts i still have no idea of
> who's behind them,
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G:
Your problem and it clearly tells something about you but
nothing about Madrid and London. I would respect this
statement more if you had the courage of your convictions
and said that you believe the blasts done by US and Israel
agents.
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but if we're talking about WWIII or the war to
> terrorism the role of the Reichstag fire suddenly comes to my mind.
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G:
You should control this obsession: Reichstag has nothing
to do with facts we are trying to talk about. If you want
to talk about Nazis, open a thread and, with hundreds of
Gestapo, SD, NSDAP members I met in exercise of my functions
I may tell you surprising things, that you will seldom if
ever find in "historic" commonplaces.
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> Those are facts, not ideas. And these facts make me wonder what limit
> can WE all tolerate: if they (or you) say we're in war shall we believe
> this is a profound truth?
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G:
WE all could try to think, but cattle and bandwagons seldom
do.
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Shall we therefore join the local militia or
> Army to fight our enemies and protect our Family, God, Nation ("God,
> Nation and Family" was Mussolini's motto) ? Shall we kill anyone who has
> a different skin or political belief in the name of  Peace and Freedom?
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G:
Do it, if you wish. As for me I was always within handfuls
trying to defend themselves against hundreds of millions:
In Warsaw Ghetto, in Polish Resistance, in Israeli Citizen
Army, along with Israeli Arabs. You want to forbid us the
right to defend ourselves from extermination?
You may always try.
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> Do you mean that i lie or that i'm having hallucinations if i say that i see no WWIII?
> Where do we go from here?
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G:
No, just blind.
We could try to build a factual base and try to see what
we can infer from it.
But I don't believe that we are capable to do it, so
better let's leave it at that and keep on drinking and
dancing waiting for them to come.
BTW, I fear that Italy may be next to have blasts carried
out by fancy dressed carabinieri.

Georges.
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