Re: lozenge...

[Antonio Rossin <rossin(at)tin.it>]

At 22:10 +0100 17-05-2005, Bernard Clayson wrote:
>  Antonio wrote
>  I see a paradox here. Not in what you say, Richard, but in the
>  communication context that results from one's wish to change
>  -- myself perhaps -- and the audience.
>
>  (BC) Antonio, the paradox is only there whilst one 'talks' about it.
>  'Talking' also includes writing, and building whiz-bang websites,
>  they mean nothing unless they are backed by practical hands-on
>  examples, due to the fact they all attempt to convince others to do
>  it, instead of doing it yourself.
>  'Do as I say, not do as I do' has the predictable result of getting
>  others to preach, not do.

That's their choice, Bernard. As for myself, I do not want to
convince anybody.  But I am a parent, and feel it my duty that
of  'talking' about education to my colleagues parents, besides
performing it with my children. I also am a medicine doctor, and
think it my duty that of informing society about society healing.

Yet I do not want to convince you to call black what you see it
white. Nor you can convince me to call white what I see it black.
What I want to do, it is offering my contribute as a chance for
the others to choose, if they like, and I am done.


(Bernard)
>  It should be obvious by now, that anything given has a ball and
>  chain attached.
>  I made a conscious decision, not to ask, request, petition etc, I
>  took the publics rights as non-negotiable. It appears to have been
>  accepted, thanks also to a bit of international help.
>  No one has disputed it ...... apart from some members of my
>  parish council who have had their ego over-ridden <grin> and that
>  is a story I will not go in to due to waiting for the next episode.

(ant)
It seems to me, you are working inside the current "yes-yes" political
system -- though you are performing bottom-up policies.  Sounds nice
to me, and I will give you (after your asking for) all the (international)
contribute I can -- as I did until now.
As for myself, I am working to show the public another political
system, made with a "yes-not" communication relationship model.
There is difference, and it is rather a difficult model to perform,
unlike yours, because the public did not imagine its existence even.
Though I'm getting some valuable support -- from the outside ;-)



>  If every wddm member went out and started democracy, reporting
>  back on what they achieved, mistakes identified etc we would all
>  benefit from it, and encourage others to do the same.
>
>  To do less will achieve nothing.......... except more comments from
>  Georges about what he does in his cellar (I was under the illusion he
>  was emptying bottles of vino, shows how wrong one can be <grin>)
>
>  Regards
>  Bernard

Ciao,  antonio