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00203: Re: New application No. 22

From: "Ted Becker" <becketl(at)auburn.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:12:55 -0500
Subject: Re: New application No. 22

Bruce. That's fine. In a sense it's a subscription, not an application. I go along with that. It is just a more inclusive way of
proceeding.

The rest of what is said is fine with me. I also like the disclaimer idea. I mean, we're not Plato's Nocturnal Council.

Ted.
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bruce.eggum(at)gmail.com 04/26/05 5:17 PM >>>
Dear Ted,

On 4/26/05, Ted Becker <becketl(at)auburn.edu> wrote:
I think it's nice that folks who come in tell us about themselves, but I don't think we need an application process. The proof will come
in the contribution they make and the facilitating out of disruptive ones.

<Bruce> I do believe we need an application procedure, simply to
provide a procedure for people to follow to join. Every email list has
one. However I agree we should eliminate the practice of "accepting or
rejecting" someone.

<Ted than said:> Second, when he says he disagrees with our "model,"
this is precisely what we do not want to do, have some kind of
preferred model and to waste our time trying to come up with one. In
the deliberative democracy movement, which is much further along than
the direct democracy one, I'd say that the consensus is to not build
models, but to describe and evaluate "best practices." I think we'd
do much better if we followed that course.

<Bruce> I got a bit confused on your email because you said "he" not
referring to anyone in particular. I thought at first you were
responding to me, from the previous email. I believe you were
referring to Richard Moore's statement:

" The book presents an analysis of how the world system works at present,
including the sham of liberal democracy. But the main thesis, the most
unique part, is my understanding of how we can change things and what real
democracy is about. I don't agree with the models currently being proposed
by WWDM, but you folks have the same goals I do and I think this would be a
good forum for me to participate in."

I agree with Ted that our goal is to provide information on any
software, governing model or idea which will allow the "people" to
choose a better government system. It appears we "endorse" a model
because for instance we speak of I&R, I&R&R, DD, and usually discuss
representatives of some kind.

Perhaps we need a "disclaimer" which states: WIKI WDDM does not
endorse any particular model.

1.WIKI WDDM provides information on various ideas and models of
government for discussion and consideration for the People to consider
as they build their government. No particular idea or model is
endorsed by WIKI WDDM. Individual members may express their opinion of
course.

Have I written a goal? I will present this part on WIKKI WDDM.
http://www.world-wide-democracy.net/Wiki/WddmGoals

ATB Bruce,


Ted.
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bruce.eggum(at)gmail.com 04/26/05 3:00 AM >>>
Richard Moore ok here, Bruce
ps do we need to ok each individual, or do we only need to object if
we have an objection?

On 4/26/05, Valach <valach(at)iol.cz> wrote:

I have no objection.
Milan Valach


----- Original Message -----
From: Josep Lluís
To: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:01 AM
Subject: RE: New application No. 22

Ok with me. Josep

-----Mensaje original-----
De: <WDDM webmaster>
Enviado el: lunes, 25 de abril de 2005 23:40
Para: wddm@world-wide-democracy.net
Asunto: New application No. 22

Please submit your comments/approval before April 31:
This is also placed in
http://www.world-wide-democracy.net/Wiki/NewApplicationsReceived


* This is a request from richard(at)cyberjournal.org to become a WDDM member


Dear WWDM,

For 30 years I was in the software R&D industry in Silicon Valley. In 1994 I

quit my career and moved to Ireland to become a writer. Not a writer in the
sense of art or profession, but in the sense of developing my ideas and
sharing them. My motivation came from my understanding that the world system

is dysfunctional, and I wanted to contribute to changing it.

I've published dozens of articles in magazines and journals around the world

- a wide variety of venues, including liberal magazines, Marxist journals,
militia newsletters, and student 'zines. Everything I write gets posted
first to my email lists. My most successful article so far has been
"Escaping the Matrix", published first in Whole Earth (2000) and then
elsewhere. If you look in google, you'll find that it's been posted to lots
of websites (usually without me being informed). I've gotten at least a
hundred enthusiastic letters and messages in response to that article.

I self-published a pamphlet called "The Zen of Global Transformation", which

had an enthusiastic but very small following. I didn't do much to promote
it...not sure why. I still have a few copies available, and it's posted on
my website. I've now got a book almost ready for publication, "Escaping the
Matrix - Global Transformation: Why We Need It, And How We Can Get It". I
will be spending full-time promoting that when it it finished.

The book presents an analysis of how the world system works at present,
including the sham of liberal democracy. But the main thesis, the most
unique part, is my understanding of how we can change things and what real
democracy is about. I don't agree with the models currently being proposed
by WWDM, but you folks have the same goals I do and I think this would be a
good forum for me to participate in.

best regards,
Richard Moore (rkm)
http://cyberjournal.org




--
Support the Troops, Not the WAR-RING
"In sharing, in loving all and everything, one people naturally found a due portion of the thing they sought,
while in fearing, the other found need of conquest."

Bruce Eggum, Gresham Wisconsin, USA
http://doinggovernment.com/
Check out my Blog too
http://doinggovernment.blogspot.com/




--
Support the Troops, Not the WAR-RING
"In sharing, in loving all and everything, one people naturally found a due portion of the thing they sought,
while in fearing, the other found need of conquest."

Bruce Eggum, Gresham Wisconsin, USA
http://doinggovernment.com/
Check out my Blog too
http://doinggovernment.blogspot.com/



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