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Re: Seeking True Democracy
Posted by: koikaze (IP Logged)
Date: September 19, 2007 11:39AM

Good Afternoon, PVR


Thank you for your excellent description. It helped me grasp the pragmatic aspect of your proposal ... it can be accomplished with tools currently at our disposal ... a critically important point.


re: "The views expressed will be on the True Democracy platform. Since everyone is free to express his/her will, the voice of common people has much greater chance of being heard on the True Democracy platform. This will be especially so once it is increasingly known that such a platform is available to the ordinary citizen."


While I have concerns about your proposal, they are secondary to the basic premise: A method of empowering the public ... NOW!! We don't need perfection, we need a sound platform for change. I am reminded of an excellent passage in "The Tragedy of the Commons", Garrett Hardin, Science, 162(1968):1243-1248:


"It is one of the peculiarities of the warfare between reform and the status quo that it is thoughtlessly governed by a double standard. Whenever a reform measure is proposed it is often defeated when its opponents triumphantly discover a flaw in it. As Kingsley Davis has pointed out, worshipers of the status quo sometimes imply that no reform is possible without unanimous agreement, an implication contrary to historical fact. As nearly as I can make out, automatic rejection of proposed reforms is based on one of two unconscious assumptions: (1) that the status quo is perfect; or (2) that the choice we face is between reform and no action; if the proposed reform is imperfect, we presumably should take no action at all, while we wait for a perfect proposal."


Your proposal may not be perfect, but it's way ahead of whatever's in second place.


It seems likely the process will initially take root in a relatively small community. When the people of a town are able to influence the outcome of a contentious local issue, their fellow-citizens will be anxious to participate, as well. Once a level of success is achieved in one community, the mechanism will spread (See NEXUS, Small Worlds and the groundbreaking Theory of Networks by Mark Buchanan, W. W. Norton & Co., NY)


You have outlined an essential (first) step on the road to true democracy. The step does not put us in paradise, but it cracks the door a bit ... and it can be accomplished promptly by any community, as soon as the internet facilities are available.


I gather you feel WDDM should create a mechanism similar to the Roy Baine's [www.myverdict.net] site you mentioned in an earlier post. I must ask whether it would wise to implement the process at that site rather than re-inventing the wheel. It is well laid out for public participation on issues of local interest but has not, so far, attracted broad notice. If we wish to attain true democracy, wouldn't we be better served by finding a way to align ourselves with others with similar interests? Fragmentation of effort is a greater threat than public apathy.


(I must break away now, but will continue my response to you and also respond to mkolar as quickly as I can.)


Fred


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Subject Views Written By Posted
  Seeking True Democracy 1729 koikaze 09/06/2007 05:18AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 456 koikaze 09/25/2007 10:32AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 595 PVR 09/06/2007 10:48PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 1312 koikaze 09/09/2007 06:33AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 551 MiKolar 09/18/2007 08:24PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 465 koikaze 09/23/2007 08:25AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 446 RoyDaine 09/23/2007 10:02AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 447 koikaze 09/23/2007 10:12AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 427 RoyDaine 09/23/2007 11:24AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 426 MiKolar 09/24/2007 08:58PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 450 BrEggum 09/24/2007 09:07PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 458 RoyDaine 09/24/2007 11:31PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 507 koikaze 09/21/2007 06:19AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 511 koikaze 09/20/2007 04:45AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 566 RoyDaine 09/20/2007 09:18AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 532 koikaze 09/21/2007 06:22AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 521 RoyDaine 09/21/2007 07:45AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 518 koikaze 09/22/2007 06:25AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 534 BrEggum 09/21/2007 08:42AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 508 koikaze 09/22/2007 06:30AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 527 RoyDaine 09/22/2007 08:09AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 549 BrEggum 09/22/2007 09:04AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 527 WebMaster 09/22/2007 06:37PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 516 BrEggum 09/22/2007 07:09PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 471 RoyDaine 09/22/2007 11:14PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 464 BrEggum 09/22/2007 11:33PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 464 RoyDaine 09/23/2007 12:00AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 462 BrEggum 09/22/2007 10:32PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 453 MiKolar 09/24/2007 08:26PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 449 BrEggum 09/24/2007 08:34PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 502 WebMaster 09/29/2007 01:37PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 490 WebMaster 09/22/2007 10:06PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 513 RoyDaine 09/22/2007 09:39AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 500 RoyDaine 09/22/2007 08:31AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 547 BrEggum 09/22/2007 07:40AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 530 RoyDaine 09/21/2007 10:55AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 546 RoyDaine 09/21/2007 07:57AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 543 PVR 09/11/2007 04:52AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 526 koikaze 09/11/2007 01:34PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 548 PVR 09/18/2007 05:50AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 530 koikaze 09/20/2007 04:41AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 497 PVR 09/21/2007 04:52AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 565 koikaze 09/21/2007 12:23PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 534 PVR 09/21/2007 09:19PM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 463 koikaze 09/23/2007 07:48AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 523 koikaze 09/19/2007 11:39AM
  Re: Seeking True Democracy 586 koikaze 09/07/2007 02:01PM


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